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Can someone explain the special sauce of the claws compared to just use claude.ai etc
by brcmthrowaway 8mo ago
Can someone explain the special sauce of the claws compared to just use claude.ai etc
- stavros 8mo agoThey're "always" running, so they can notify you out of the blue, without you having to initiate a conversation. It's really nice UX to get a message from my assistant saying "hey, it's time to leave for the gym, and don't forget the supermarket bag because you're picking up milk on the way back, as you've run out".
- dimitri-vs 8mo agoHow would it know you've ran out of milk?
- stavros 8mo agoI told it when I noticed. I made a little pendant with a mic I can speak into and it goes to the bot.
- LeafItAlone 8mo agoI would love to hear more about this!
- stavros 8mo agoI haven't written it up yet but the repo is here: It's just a MEMS mic, a battery, and an ESP32, very simple but it works amazingly well. I wrote a companion Android app for it and it works extremely reliably!
- liminal-dev 8mo agoAre you running NanoClaw or a different project?
- Barbing 8mo agoI really love that. Can't wait for your writeup!
- stavros 8mo agoThe pendant is almost ready, I'll write it up this week! Sneak peek: https://imgz.org/i6xDDz6x/ https://imgz.org/i6xDDz6x/
- imiric 8mo agoTurns out Humane was ahead of its time.
- brcmthrowaway 8mo agoHow do people afford this?
- netsharc 8mo agoHmm, Google Gemini has access to my Google Tasks and can set reminders. It's also asked me if I want it to check something at "tomorrow 9am", and when I said yes, it managed to do that.
- stavros 8mo agoYeah, that's kind of like it. Agents just have many many more integrations, so they can do many more things. For example, it knows all my preferences, and can search for flights and say things like "this one is more expensive, but skipping the morning wakeup is worth the $20".
- caminante 8mo agoBut have you had consistently good experience with Google Gemini and Google apps? Or read the mixed reviews? For me, Gemini has been hit or miss and somehow less useful than Assistant was 2+ years ago.
- netsharc 8mo agoThe coding assistant for VSCode is nuts (i.e. gets it wrong a lot, also one time it just got so confused). I have Gemini Pro for free for a year because I bought a Pixel phone, it answers very fast, so I like it. Let's see how I'll feel about shelling out real money when the subscription ends. But on the phone, I still use Assistant (and just have a shortcut to launch the webpage in my browser), because the phone was forcing Gemini, but after 5 minutes of usage I found it was slower for my usages (usually I just tell it to set an alarm and add a reminder/calendar event), and when I asked about my tasks, Gemini would get the task listing from Google Tasks, and keep it in its history... that'll pollute my chat history!
- caminante 8mo agoSorry to hear that. I've had a similar deal. "Free" means included, and we are the beta testers! In the last month, Gemini successfully persisted Google notes and calendar events. It also malfunctioned by adding these to chat context...(and not persisting to Google Calendar or Keep.) Same commands. Different outcomes. It's unusable.
- mpweiher 8mo agoDunno, my calendar reminds me "out of the blue", without me having to initiate a conversation, that it's time to leave for the gym, no "claw" or "ai" involved. I always have my backpack with me, so if I need milk I can pick it up on the way back. And I am pretty sure that I have to notice if I need milk myself. The tech sounds cool, but whenever I hear about actual applications, I don't see the point.
- dgellow 8mo agoEverything I’ve seen about it feels so over engineered
- stavros 8mo agoIf you don't have a need for a personal assistant, that's fine, not everyone does. That doesn't mean nobody does. The milk thing was just an example of a tool that can intelligently combine things for you, not a literal "it's a calendar with a milk function". This is a bit like "if I want to call my friends, I have a phone a home, why would I need a mobile?" which somewhat betrays a lack of imagination.
- olyjohn 8mo agoYou're just not providing any good examples of what I cant already do with current automation tools.
- neodymiumphish 8mo agoMy wife constantly asks me about adding books to her Kindle. I use Anna’s archive for this, but the process can be very annoying. I have to go to the site, search for the content. Filter by epub and English. Then download the content. Then send it to her Kindle email. My openclaw now searches for the relevant content upon her request, sends the URL to a Stacks docker instance, monitors the Stacks instance for when the download completes, grabs the resulting epub from a local file share, then sends it to her kindle email. She doesn’t even send me the request anymore; she sends them straight to the Discord bot. It also corrects our calendar every night. She often just through something on the calendar like “[son’s name] speech”, but we have speech appointments in either of two locations, and I have a strong preference for calendar items in the format “[person] - activity”. If she puts the city name with the speech appointments (“[son’s name] speech [town]”), openclaw reformats the title accordingly and adds the physical address of the speech therapy office we go to in that town. This means Apple Calendar sends us notifications when it’s time to leave, instead of just 30 mins prior. I have a few others as well, but those are real world examples. Maybe they don’t matter for your use case, but they’re good for mine.
- qudat 8mo agoI just tell CC to create a cron job systemd unit
- dimitri-vs 8mo agoIt's for people that don't know how or don't want to be bothered with setting up a messenger integration and a scheduler.
- saberience 8mo agoThere is no special sauce. They are claude or codex in a loop. The loop is facilitated by basic cron jobs. That's it. Ai Agent as it has been for months, plus skills, plus a cron job to prompt it to do things every 20 minutes or 2 hours or however often you want.
- boywitharupee 8mo agothey have a watchdog loop, it runs periodically
- lm28469 8mo agoThere is no special sauce, it's mass hysteria driven by fake adoption metrics and people who don't know anything about computers who let "agents" run free on theirs. It's the equivalent of showing a magician cut a women in a box in half to a 5 years old kid... Put them in the same category as the neckbeards getting a hard on every 3 weeks for the past 2 years when they get to see the new version of ThE PeLiCaN On A BiCyCle... I wonder how long the circus will keep on going, at least it's funny to witness from the outside
- dmix 8mo agoThis is a classic early internet style snarky comment you used to find all over forums
- lm28469 8mo ago> Some comments were wrong about one thing long ago hence every comments remotely similar about any other remotely similar thing will always be wrong That's how this argument sounds... And it really isn't a strong argument
- juleiie 8mo agoYou really should open your mind to what this tech can achieve. Sooner or later it will click in a way that permanently alters the reality
- Zetaphor 8mo agoI've found real utility in it, but the hype definitely exceeds the current capabilities
- samrus 8mo agoI agree. Its similar to the dotcom bubble. Alot of those websites had real utility as well. Its just the hype created a liability in investment that wouldnt be fulfilled
- fooster 8mo ago
- gas9S9zw3P9c 8mo agoIt can schedule stuff and run in a loop, so it's like claude combined with cron. Truly amazing technology.
- sailfast 8mo agoCrons. A local daemon. System access as a user with the ability to listen to changes. Some idea of shared “memory” between sessions. Provider agnostic about AI. Multi-model.
- jesse_dot_id 8mo agoHaven't you ever wanted to create a gigantic attack surface for your digital life that is always running and just aching to be pwned?
- samrus 8mo agoWhatsapp api integration + cronjob Thats it. Its just pets.com Edit: although as a counterpoint to my cynicism, just the intgreations and deamon-ness can be a game changer if the user experience is good. Thats the critical thing. If you can actually delegate tasks to it and not worry about them then it'd be great. But if your gonna have to worry if its done properly, or that it would delete your emails, then it doesnt work yet. But the dream of a robot assistant is inviting. I just dont think the underlying AI is there yet