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Sorry about the whataboutery but it's "funny" how chaos in non Western-allied countries gets so much coverage, even when it doesn't affect us, but shit like the

Sorry about the whataboutery but it's "funny" how chaos in non Western-allied countries gets so much coverage, even when it doesn't affect us, but shit like the people of France's New Caledonia trying to get independence doesn't: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6S1AFh88PE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6S1AFh88PE I didn't even know about that, just that it was a beautiful place and looked it up one day to fantasize about a potential future vacation, and saw that news. So Iran may have nukes and is beating up its own people.. If the coverage keeps ramping up, the news cycle echoes of Iraq and Libya all over again. Maybe Trump's planning to make it a trilogy

Betelbuddy 8mo ago
You mean France's New Caledonia who already had three! referendums, and three times voted to remain part of France and has a new one planned for 2026? That one? Or is it something else going on there? When China knocks at the door of New Caledonia - https://www.aspi.org.au/report/when-china-knocks-door-new-caledonia/ https://www.aspi.org.au/report/when-china-knocks-door-new-ca...
- Razengan 8mo ago
  I'm talking about the news coverage. We hear more about the riots and shit in "them" countries than the riots and police killing civilians in Western countries.
watwut 8mo ago
Like, there is a lot of killing going on over there, so an article about it here and there is not "funny" nor "weird". It is not just "chaos".
halflife 8mo ago
Saying that the actions of the Iranian regime doesn’t affect western nations is like being in a burning building, saying that the fire in the floors below doesn’t affect you.
- deleted 8mo ago
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- mvdtnz 8mo ago
  Iran is totally and completely irrelevant to the lives of the vast majority of people in the West.
  - hunterpayne 8mo ago
    Iran is the major cause of political instability in the the ME. They are the primary funders for the 3 most active terrorist groups in the ME if not the world. Every single westerner pays more for things because of the instability Iran funds.
    - pessimizer 8mo ago
      They are the only supporters of majority Shiite populations who live under western-supported Sunni and Wahabi dictators. They are a Shiite theocracy surrounded by hostile Western-supported Sunni theocracies. > Every single westerner pays more for things because of the instability Iran funds. This is simply a lie. Every single Westerner pays vastly more for things because they spend trillions propping up illegitimate middle eastern dictators in order to keep their natural resources cheap and accessible for sleazy western middlemen to mark up.
      - halflife 8mo ago
        What are you trying to say? That you rather have a non western aligned theocracy than an aligned one?
      - reliabilityguy 8mo ago
        > They are the only supporters of majority Shiite populations who live under western-supported Sunni and Wahabi dictators. This is categorically false. Iraq is a shiite country.
    - DANmode 8mo ago
Wytwwww 8mo ago
> but shit like the people of France's New Caledonia trying to get independence doesn't They had 3 referendums since 2018. So it seems nobody is stopping them from leaving if they wanted to...
cardanome 8mo ago
You know Venezuela, Iran, Kuba. I wonder what all these countries that western Media tells us have "oppressive regimes" have in common. Funny how they all have spoken out against the genocide in Gaza. One would think that would be the link on why they are targeted. Maybe the problem is not humanitarian but that they are opposing US imperialism? Just like all the times before. You know when Iraq was preparing weapons of mass destruction. When Libya needed to be bombed for the good of its people so that Islamist warmongers could destroy the country. When the US brought the Taliban into power to fight the Soviets and then invaded Afghanistan to get rid of the Taliban again. And then left and now the Taliban are fine again. War. War never changes. It is the same old lies. Now they want to destroy Iran.
- halflife 8mo ago
  Don’t worry, Gaza also has an oppressive regime.
  - cardanome 8mo ago
    Yes, the oppressive regime is called Israel.
    - reliabilityguy 8mo ago
      Yeah, the one that forced Hamas to do that: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna21742496 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna21742496 What is funny to me is that as long as some group is anti-west, they can commit any atrocity, and get a blank check for it. Like, they had to do it, there was not other choice. Completely stripped of any agency not to commit atrocities.
      - cardanome 8mo ago
        So the worst you could find is a story from 2007 where Hamas killed five collaborators? Not to mention that it was in the context of a coup attempt against democratically elected Hamas. Fatah decided to betray its own people. In the West Bank it is helping Israel to oppress their own people and actively fights against Palestinian resistance. Hamas works perfectly well together with all Palestinian resistance groups from Islamic Jihad to secular ones like the PFLP.

Betelbuddy 8mo ago

You mean France's New Caledonia who already had three! referendums, and three times voted to remain part of France and has a new one planned for 2026? That one? Or is it something else going on there? When China knocks at the door of New Caledonia - https://www.aspi.org.au/report/when-china-knocks-door-new-caledonia/ https://www.aspi.org.au/report/when-china-knocks-door-new-ca...

Razengan 8mo ago
I'm talking about the news coverage. We hear more about the riots and shit in "them" countries than the riots and police killing civilians in Western countries.

watwut 8mo ago

Like, there is a lot of killing going on over there, so an article about it here and there is not "funny" nor "weird". It is not just "chaos".

halflife 8mo ago

Saying that the actions of the Iranian regime doesn’t affect western nations is like being in a burning building, saying that the fire in the floors below doesn’t affect you.

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mvdtnz 8mo ago
Iran is totally and completely irrelevant to the lives of the vast majority of people in the West.
- hunterpayne 8mo ago
  Iran is the major cause of political instability in the the ME. They are the primary funders for the 3 most active terrorist groups in the ME if not the world. Every single westerner pays more for things because of the instability Iran funds.
  - pessimizer 8mo ago
    They are the only supporters of majority Shiite populations who live under western-supported Sunni and Wahabi dictators. They are a Shiite theocracy surrounded by hostile Western-supported Sunni theocracies. > Every single westerner pays more for things because of the instability Iran funds. This is simply a lie. Every single Westerner pays vastly more for things because they spend trillions propping up illegitimate middle eastern dictators in order to keep their natural resources cheap and accessible for sleazy western middlemen to mark up.
    - halflife 8mo ago
      What are you trying to say? That you rather have a non western aligned theocracy than an aligned one?
    - reliabilityguy 8mo ago
      > They are the only supporters of majority Shiite populations who live under western-supported Sunni and Wahabi dictators. This is categorically false. Iraq is a shiite country.
  - DANmode 8mo ago

Wytwwww 8mo ago

> but shit like the people of France's New Caledonia trying to get independence doesn't They had 3 referendums since 2018. So it seems nobody is stopping them from leaving if they wanted to...

cardanome 8mo ago

You know Venezuela, Iran, Kuba. I wonder what all these countries that western Media tells us have "oppressive regimes" have in common. Funny how they all have spoken out against the genocide in Gaza. One would think that would be the link on why they are targeted. Maybe the problem is not humanitarian but that they are opposing US imperialism? Just like all the times before. You know when Iraq was preparing weapons of mass destruction. When Libya needed to be bombed for the good of its people so that Islamist warmongers could destroy the country. When the US brought the Taliban into power to fight the Soviets and then invaded Afghanistan to get rid of the Taliban again. And then left and now the Taliban are fine again. War. War never changes. It is the same old lies. Now they want to destroy Iran.

halflife 8mo ago
Don’t worry, Gaza also has an oppressive regime.
- cardanome 8mo ago
  Yes, the oppressive regime is called Israel.
  - reliabilityguy 8mo ago
    Yeah, the one that forced Hamas to do that: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna21742496 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna21742496 What is funny to me is that as long as some group is anti-west, they can commit any atrocity, and get a blank check for it. Like, they had to do it, there was not other choice. Completely stripped of any agency not to commit atrocities.
    - cardanome 8mo ago
      So the worst you could find is a story from 2007 where Hamas killed five collaborators? Not to mention that it was in the context of a coup attempt against democratically elected Hamas. Fatah decided to betray its own people. In the West Bank it is helping Israel to oppress their own people and actively fights against Palestinian resistance. Hamas works perfectly well together with all Palestinian resistance groups from Islamic Jihad to secular ones like the PFLP.