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I had exact same issue with it. I don't get it. Integration of LLM with chating services is simple, how does it change anything?

by krzyk 8mo ago

javier123454321 8mo ago
It's simple if you've done that work before, or if you consider yourself little more technical, this is a turnkey solution that does that. I don't understand why people use Gmail. Just get a VPS and set up a SMTP server. Why would anyone use Squarespace you can code an HTML page in a day and upload it to a static site hosting service.
- aleph_minus_one 8mo ago
  > I don't understand why people use Gmail. Just get a VPS and set up a SMTP server. This would indeed be a good idea. The problem is that other email providers will often reject your emails (e.g. because they consider your emails to be spam or simply don't trust your server), so this idea is not easy to get to work. So the next best solution is to use an email provider that is somewhat established (avoiding the mentioned problem), but is more trustable than Google.
  - javier123454321 8mo ago
    I'm sorry you might have missed the part where I was being sarcastic. Setting up your own SMTP server is actually literally a bad idea for the most part. Unless you want to debug your own mail server. Which, I promise you, 99% of users using gmail do not, and should not.
    - irishcoffee 8mo ago
      Handing your digital life to a claw bot that was vibe coded however, is a good idea?
      - javier123454321 8mo ago
        Every single documentation and commentary about this says that it is not a good idea, but it does trigger the inspiration and imagination of people of what the future is going to be. The whole conversation around this comment is that people don't get why people are excited about this.
        irishcoffee 8mo ago
        > Every single documentation and commentary about this says that it is not a good idea, but it does trigger the inspiration and imagination of people of what the future is going to be. The whole conversation around this comment is that people don't get why people are excited about this. If you have 10 minutes, here is an example of how LLM tech can trigger inspiration and imagination of people of what the future is going to be: https://www.citriniresearch.com/p/2028gic https://www.citriniresearch.com/p/2028gic
- krzyk 7mo ago
  Email is a bad example, it is quite closed system compared to, well everything else. One cannot just telnet and send email (that will get delivered) these days, unfortunately.
enether 8mo ago
Mm, not at all. The usual LLM doesn't have its own file system, browser, persistent memory of all actions, etc. The usual LLM experience is you open chatgpt.com and have a singular chat session.

I had exact same issue with it. I don't get it. Integration of LLM with chating services is simple, how does it change anything?

by krzyk 8mo ago

I had exact same issue with it. I don't get it. Integration of LLM with chating services is simple, how does it change anything?

javier123454321 8mo ago

It's simple if you've done that work before, or if you consider yourself little more technical, this is a turnkey solution that does that. I don't understand why people use Gmail. Just get a VPS and set up a SMTP server. Why would anyone use Squarespace you can code an HTML page in a day and upload it to a static site hosting service.

aleph_minus_one 8mo ago
> I don't understand why people use Gmail. Just get a VPS and set up a SMTP server. This would indeed be a good idea. The problem is that other email providers will often reject your emails (e.g. because they consider your emails to be spam or simply don't trust your server), so this idea is not easy to get to work. So the next best solution is to use an email provider that is somewhat established (avoiding the mentioned problem), but is more trustable than Google.
- javier123454321 8mo ago
  I'm sorry you might have missed the part where I was being sarcastic. Setting up your own SMTP server is actually literally a bad idea for the most part. Unless you want to debug your own mail server. Which, I promise you, 99% of users using gmail do not, and should not.
  - irishcoffee 8mo ago
    Handing your digital life to a claw bot that was vibe coded however, is a good idea?
    - javier123454321 8mo ago
      Every single documentation and commentary about this says that it is not a good idea, but it does trigger the inspiration and imagination of people of what the future is going to be. The whole conversation around this comment is that people don't get why people are excited about this.
      - irishcoffee 8mo ago
        > Every single documentation and commentary about this says that it is not a good idea, but it does trigger the inspiration and imagination of people of what the future is going to be. The whole conversation around this comment is that people don't get why people are excited about this. If you have 10 minutes, here is an example of how LLM tech can trigger inspiration and imagination of people of what the future is going to be: https://www.citriniresearch.com/p/2028gic https://www.citriniresearch.com/p/2028gic
krzyk 7mo ago
Email is a bad example, it is quite closed system compared to, well everything else. One cannot just telnet and send email (that will get delivered) these days, unfortunately.

enether 8mo ago

Mm, not at all. The usual LLM doesn't have its own file system, browser, persistent memory of all actions, etc. The usual LLM experience is you open chatgpt.com and have a singular chat session.