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More choice, more competition, more echochambers.
by red75prime 8mo ago
More choice, more competition, more echochambers.
- k4rli 8mo agoHasn't it always been echochambers? 2000s/2010s forums, irc servers, heavily moderated reddit... Has there ever been free speech truly? Pre ~2020 4chan was rather open and unmoderated, but also had CSAM issues.
- verdverm 8mo agoIt's a strawman argument, of course there are many groups that have nothing to do with politics and echo chamber is wholly inappropriate. Think about your hobby or friend groups, certainly seems fine to have those be little islands in the internet sea. You are also correct there is nothing new here, groups have been able to create very small echo chambers if they want, many options today. Nor do they have to be "echo chambers", there are places in the middle which largely remain unexplored. This is where I've charted my course in ATProto
- red75prime 8mo agoI wasn't talking about free speech per se, but about the fragmentation of public discourse. Having multiple popular platforms makes fragmentation easier. All your friends are here. All nazies/wokes are there. There's nothing and nowhere to discuss.
- verdverm 8mo agoI'll take the echo chamber over being force to read racist and nazi propaganda any day, though kinda hard when the US government is one of the sources of this content.
- red75prime 8mo agoYeah, this way there's no need to debunk egregious lies or listen to the other side's replies. You have a feed of debunked lies at home.
- verdverm 8mo agoNot every group has to be about news, lies, and propaganda or have any content related to that. In fact most are not and created explicitly to escape the noise.
- angoragoats 8mo agoI’m not interested in debunking lies from literal Nazis and fascists, and I’m especially not interested in listening to their replies to anything at all. They can crawl back into the hole they came from.