> Do you seriously think progressives will come out on top, or even have much of a say at all, in a non-democratic system? I mean, really? I think a superior s

> Do you seriously think progressives will come out on top, or even have much of a say at all, in a non-democratic system? I mean, really? I think a superior system to the one we have now is one where progressive values are embedded in from the start. Objectively, they are superior positions that can be backed up by data. > which suggests that if you can't lift up and convince "lower class" people, racist or otherwise, you should just get out of the way These people routinely vote against their own interests. They shouldn't have a say.