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The creator was hired by OpenAI after coincidentally deciding codex was superior to all other harnesses not long before. It’s mostly marketing. Still an intere

The creator was hired by OpenAI after coincidentally deciding codex was superior to all other harnesses not long before. It’s mostly marketing. Still an interesting idea but it’s not really novel or difficult. Well, doing it securely would actually be incredibly impressive and worth big $$$.

superfrank 8mo ago
The creator has an estimated net worth of $50 million to $200 million prior to Open AI hiring him. If you listen to any interviews with him, doesn't really seem like the type of person who's driven by money and I get the impression that no matter what OpenAI is paying him, his life will remain pretty much unchanged (from a financial perspective at least). He also still talks very fondly about Claude Code and openly admits it's better at a lot of things, but he thinks Codex fits his development workflow better. I really, really don't think there's a conspiracy around the Codex thing like you're implying. I know plenty of devs who don't work for OpenAI who prefer Codex ever since 5.2 was released and if you read up a little on Peter Steinberger he really doesn't seem like the type of person who would be saying things like that if he didn't believe them. Don't get me wrong, I'm not fan boy-ing him. He seems like a really quirky dude and I disagree with a ton of his opinions, but I just really don't get the impression that he's driven by money, especially now that he already had more than he could spend in a lifetime.
- tovej 8mo ago
  You're telling me that a person that's greedy enough to have a net worth of several tens of millions doesn't care about money? Pull the other one, it's got bells on.
  - wartywhoa23 8mo ago
    Oh, the good old modest selfless millionaire fairytale to inspire modest selfless zeronaires! Never fails.
    - objektif 8mo ago
      He sounds greedy as fuck. He speed ran buggy POS to sell to model co? Obvious as day what is there to see?
  - superfrank 8mo ago
    I didn't say he didn't care about money, I just don't think that's his main driver, especially since he's already set for life. He spent 10 years building a company around a genuinely valuable product that just about everyone was using and, yeah, it made him rich. I think "I'm going to keep the money I made from the company I spent 10 years building" and "I'm not going to lie about the coding tools to try and court a deal with OpenAI" aren't contradictory values. If anything, after hearing him talk for a while, I think it's way more believable that he switched from CC to Codex because Anthropic sent lawyers after him over the ClawdBot name than because of an OpenAI deal.
  - corndoge 8mo ago
    Having things doesn't make you greedy
    - polotics 8mo ago
      Decades of psychology study beg to differ: https://www.jstor.org/stable/48553218 https://www.jstor.org/stable/48553218 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33734775/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33734775/ https://academic.oup.com/cercor/article/34/10/bhae414/7824631 https://academic.oup.com/cercor/article/34/10/bhae414/782463... https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/judgment-and-decision-making/article/rich-get-richer-and-the-poor-get-poorer-on-risk-aversion-in-behavioral-decisionmaking/79C64A4B2E5DC6DF8DA81391A4EA143D https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/judgment-and-decisio... ...also, open your eyes?
    - tovej 8mo ago
      Having a few hundred thousand doesn't make you greedy, it makes you fortunate. Having a hundred times that does make you greedy. You had more than enough long before getting to that point. You could have been content with less, so the only reason to try to extract more out of others is greed.

superfrank 8mo ago

The creator has an estimated net worth of $50 million to $200 million prior to Open AI hiring him. If you listen to any interviews with him, doesn't really seem like the type of person who's driven by money and I get the impression that no matter what OpenAI is paying him, his life will remain pretty much unchanged (from a financial perspective at least). He also still talks very fondly about Claude Code and openly admits it's better at a lot of things, but he thinks Codex fits his development workflow better. I really, really don't think there's a conspiracy around the Codex thing like you're implying. I know plenty of devs who don't work for OpenAI who prefer Codex ever since 5.2 was released and if you read up a little on Peter Steinberger he really doesn't seem like the type of person who would be saying things like that if he didn't believe them. Don't get me wrong, I'm not fan boy-ing him. He seems like a really quirky dude and I disagree with a ton of his opinions, but I just really don't get the impression that he's driven by money, especially now that he already had more than he could spend in a lifetime.

tovej 8mo ago
You're telling me that a person that's greedy enough to have a net worth of several tens of millions doesn't care about money? Pull the other one, it's got bells on.
- wartywhoa23 8mo ago
  Oh, the good old modest selfless millionaire fairytale to inspire modest selfless zeronaires! Never fails.
  - objektif 8mo ago
    He sounds greedy as fuck. He speed ran buggy POS to sell to model co? Obvious as day what is there to see?
- superfrank 8mo ago
  I didn't say he didn't care about money, I just don't think that's his main driver, especially since he's already set for life. He spent 10 years building a company around a genuinely valuable product that just about everyone was using and, yeah, it made him rich. I think "I'm going to keep the money I made from the company I spent 10 years building" and "I'm not going to lie about the coding tools to try and court a deal with OpenAI" aren't contradictory values. If anything, after hearing him talk for a while, I think it's way more believable that he switched from CC to Codex because Anthropic sent lawyers after him over the ClawdBot name than because of an OpenAI deal.
- corndoge 8mo ago
  Having things doesn't make you greedy
  - polotics 8mo ago
    Decades of psychology study beg to differ: https://www.jstor.org/stable/48553218 https://www.jstor.org/stable/48553218 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33734775/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33734775/ https://academic.oup.com/cercor/article/34/10/bhae414/7824631 https://academic.oup.com/cercor/article/34/10/bhae414/782463... https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/judgment-and-decision-making/article/rich-get-richer-and-the-poor-get-poorer-on-risk-aversion-in-behavioral-decisionmaking/79C64A4B2E5DC6DF8DA81391A4EA143D https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/judgment-and-decisio... ...also, open your eyes?
  - tovej 8mo ago
    Having a few hundred thousand doesn't make you greedy, it makes you fortunate. Having a hundred times that does make you greedy. You had more than enough long before getting to that point. You could have been content with less, so the only reason to try to extract more out of others is greed.