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Victim mentality? Explain what stops Europe from producing a worthy LinkedIn competitor that challenges LinkedIn's hegemony.

by csmpltn 7mo ago

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gib444 7mo ago
> Victim mentality Oh please.
- foxglacier 7mo ago
  He's right though. Blaming someone else for your own failures is victim mentality - regardless of whether they really are the cause or not. Notice how China managed to break free from US tech dominance, no matter how difficult it was, by making itself strong and capable instead of accepting helplessness which is victim mentality.
  - Barrin92 7mo ago
    >Notice how China managed to break free from US tech dominance, no matter how difficult it was They did this because in the Chinese narrative Americans are a bunch of hegemonic brutes and self sufficiency was a matter of survival. Europeans don't use LinkedIn because they're victimized, they use American products because there was a belief that the United States is a civilized country whose companies and government can be relied on. That Americans of all people now adopt the rhetoric of the Chinese about themselves and Europe, which has some terrifying and unflattering implications about their own self image should make people think about what they're saying. Europe didn't go for a different route because of victim-hood, but because the rule of law and the so-called Western values do still mean something on the old continent. If Americans now openly say, Europe you losers you should have treated us the way the Communist party told you to, fair enough but mind you that's how people talk who are at the end of their own civilization, I'm German I know the attitude very well.
  - gib444 7mo ago
    I will not take the bait. We all know the meaning of victim of mentality and know it doesn't apply in this discussion.
    - csmpltn 7mo ago
      > I will not take the bait. I simply asked you to qualify what makes the EU a victim of the US, and why that's somehow the reason for things never being built or done in the EU.

Victim mentality? Explain what stops Europe from producing a worthy LinkedIn competitor that challenges LinkedIn's hegemony.

by csmpltn 7mo ago

Victim mentality? Explain what stops Europe from producing a worthy LinkedIn competitor that challenges LinkedIn's hegemony.

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gib444 7mo ago

> Victim mentality Oh please.

foxglacier 7mo ago
He's right though. Blaming someone else for your own failures is victim mentality - regardless of whether they really are the cause or not. Notice how China managed to break free from US tech dominance, no matter how difficult it was, by making itself strong and capable instead of accepting helplessness which is victim mentality.
- Barrin92 7mo ago
  >Notice how China managed to break free from US tech dominance, no matter how difficult it was They did this because in the Chinese narrative Americans are a bunch of hegemonic brutes and self sufficiency was a matter of survival. Europeans don't use LinkedIn because they're victimized, they use American products because there was a belief that the United States is a civilized country whose companies and government can be relied on. That Americans of all people now adopt the rhetoric of the Chinese about themselves and Europe, which has some terrifying and unflattering implications about their own self image should make people think about what they're saying. Europe didn't go for a different route because of victim-hood, but because the rule of law and the so-called Western values do still mean something on the old continent. If Americans now openly say, Europe you losers you should have treated us the way the Communist party told you to, fair enough but mind you that's how people talk who are at the end of their own civilization, I'm German I know the attitude very well.
- gib444 7mo ago
  I will not take the bait. We all know the meaning of victim of mentality and know it doesn't apply in this discussion.
  - csmpltn 7mo ago
    > I will not take the bait. I simply asked you to qualify what makes the EU a victim of the US, and why that's somehow the reason for things never being built or done in the EU.