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How do you make a phone with replaceable battery to also be water resistant?

by 243341286 8mo ago

vanviegen 8mo ago
Just tight fitting casing with some rubbery edges, nothing special. Just look at smart phones from ~10 years ago.
- peterfirefly 8mo ago
  But we also want devices that are thin and lightweight. Watertight battery compartments are super easy (barely an inconvenience) if you "just" make the device thicker and heavier.
Reason077 8mo ago
It’s pretty difficult to do that. iPhones are known to potentially lose some of their water resistance after a battery swap, as it’s hard to guarantee the replaced waterproof seal is as good as the factory one. The EU battery regulation has exemptions for IP67-rated devices which retain 83% of original battery capacity after 500 charge cycles, which most modern smartphones will qualify for.
sschueller 8mo ago
It is doable and with all the amazing achievements this is the thing that is too hard to get working? Also all new foldables are not water proof (yet). Your MacBook isn't water proof either yet the battery is also permanently glued in. Why?
- stefanfisk 8mo ago
  MacBook batteries have not been permanently glued in for quite some time. Replacement requires some disassembly but is perfectly doable for most techies. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Air+13-Inch+Late+2020+Battery+Replacement/142559 https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Air+13-Inch+Late+2020+B...
  - sschueller 8mo ago
    You have remove screws and be careful not to damage anything. Easy for you and me but not for the layman. Sorry but why do we have to accept mediocre as acceptable these days? My old laptop had hot-swapable batteries.
    - stefanfisk 8mo ago
      Personally I prefer the current solution to adding weight and size. I can’t remember my battery draining below 50% since I bought my M5 a while back. 10+ years ago I agree that the needs were different but these days needing swappable batteries seems like a very minor niche IMHO.
ginko 8mo ago
Most diving computers have replaceable batteries. Same for waterproof quartz watches. Why do you think this is impossible for mobile phones?

How do you make a phone with replaceable battery to also be water resistant?

vanviegen 8mo ago

Just tight fitting casing with some rubbery edges, nothing special. Just look at smart phones from ~10 years ago.

peterfirefly 8mo ago
But we also want devices that are thin and lightweight. Watertight battery compartments are super easy (barely an inconvenience) if you "just" make the device thicker and heavier.

Reason077 8mo ago

It’s pretty difficult to do that. iPhones are known to potentially lose some of their water resistance after a battery swap, as it’s hard to guarantee the replaced waterproof seal is as good as the factory one. The EU battery regulation has exemptions for IP67-rated devices which retain 83% of original battery capacity after 500 charge cycles, which most modern smartphones will qualify for.

sschueller 8mo ago

It is doable and with all the amazing achievements this is the thing that is too hard to get working? Also all new foldables are not water proof (yet). Your MacBook isn't water proof either yet the battery is also permanently glued in. Why?

stefanfisk 8mo ago
MacBook batteries have not been permanently glued in for quite some time. Replacement requires some disassembly but is perfectly doable for most techies. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Air+13-Inch+Late+2020+Battery+Replacement/142559 https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Air+13-Inch+Late+2020+B...
- sschueller 8mo ago
  You have remove screws and be careful not to damage anything. Easy for you and me but not for the layman. Sorry but why do we have to accept mediocre as acceptable these days? My old laptop had hot-swapable batteries.
  - stefanfisk 8mo ago
    Personally I prefer the current solution to adding weight and size. I can’t remember my battery draining below 50% since I bought my M5 a while back. 10+ years ago I agree that the needs were different but these days needing swappable batteries seems like a very minor niche IMHO.

ginko 8mo ago

Most diving computers have replaceable batteries. Same for waterproof quartz watches. Why do you think this is impossible for mobile phones?