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Doesn't seem to be available in the EU. Yet another US-only app with US-only weather, I guess, like countless others… "Obsessing" over your icons and user inte

by jwr 8mo ago

Doesn't seem to be available in the EU. Yet another US-only app with US-only weather, I guess, like countless others… "Obsessing" over your icons and user interface won't make your app useful to people you explicitly do not provide your app to.

lionkor 8mo ago
I'm in Germany and I really enjoy the Norwegian weather app YR, it's nice and simple and very clean.
ca6d8815 8mo ago
Try your local weather app. Here in Switzerland the MeteoSwiss app is absolutely wonderful, and has all these main features: - Uncertainty bands in the forecast (the bands are a better UX than more lines imo) - User-supplied reports - Many many many different maps (snow / cloud / wind / sunshine / air quality / etc) - Alerts (not notifications, but real alerts to watch out for something) Plus many more other features. I found Yr in Norway also good (and on the web you also get uncertainty in the 21 day forecast https://www.yr.no/en/21-day-forecast/1-305409/Norway/Troms/Troms%C3%B8/Troms%C3%B8 https://www.yr.no/en/21-day-forecast/1-305409/Norway/Troms/T...). Local weather services shouldn't be overlooked (and they're "free"... save for taxes!).
- mr_mitm 8mo ago
  WarnWetter for Germany. Costs a symbolic 1 Euro for dumb reasons, but I think it's easily worth it.
- k4rli 8mo ago
  yr.no tends to be most accurate for Scandi+Baltics somehow pretty often. Ventusky has the best app experience in Android with many different layers like wind, precipitation, air quality and many more. Can only recommend this as well.
- fastasucan 8mo ago
  Yes! They are much better. Yr has a great API as well.
- sschueller 8mo ago
  In Switzerland all weather data is now also open and accessible via API. You can also use it for commercial purposes. https://www.meteoswiss.admin.ch/services-and-publications/service/open-data.html https://www.meteoswiss.admin.ch/services-and-publications/se...
- jwr 8mo ago
  I actually use (and pay a subscription for) Windy, which is local (EU) and has data from a multitude of providers (some of which aren't free). My comment was a critique of a launching approach that I find annoying, because I would never dare to launch an app ignoring most of the world.
  - ratrocket 8mo ago
    Is that the blue windy or the red windy? I can never keep them straight!
pixelesque 8mo ago
Yeah, odd to show an example screenshot with France and Spain on the map if it's not available there...
NoboruWataya 8mo ago
BreezyWeather is a pretty good open source option for Android, if you are looking. Gives you plenty of options of data providers to use. https://github.com/breezy-weather/breezy-weather https://github.com/breezy-weather/breezy-weather
ho_schi 8mo ago
It looks nice. Less nice but very good in Germany is DWD Warn Weather: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/dwd-warnwetter/id986420993?l=en-GB https://apps.apple.com/de/app/dwd-warnwetter/id986420993?l=e... Yes. We pay for it with taxes! And again with our money in the App Store. But the app success is build upon the lawsuit from WetterOnline which is a private company. https://www.bundesgerichtshof.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilungen/DE/2020/2020028.html https://www.bundesgerichtshof.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilung... The lawsuit backfired and made the state funded app well known. WetterOnline attacked the DWD because the state funded app is superior :) I think in Italy they have some similar app. Would be nice if the EU helps us to unify the app. And add offline capabilities, bad or no internet happens. The weather radar is offline of less use but the forecast still helps. They release videos for dangerous weather on YouTube. We’ll know for regular people, in regular cloths, speaking like regular Germans. Everyone loves it :) I like it when important services are provided by the state and private companies. Save foundation! In worst case the state is always better. In best case they compete and public benefits. In this case the private company just sucks. But they made a good job in advertising for DWD ^^ PS: If someone would implement a nice weather for Linux (best Gtk) based upon DWD public data? DO IT!
Terretta 8mo ago
Has EU weather sources per credits (DWD, ECMWF, EUMETSAT -- roughly what it's doing is graphing multiple models), but if you are into weather apps you're likely best off with Carrot that (a) lets you design your own UI including matching this (more or less), and (b) lets you choose among weather sources and flip among them with a tap. If it's about cute UI and key notifications, try Hello Weather. For microcell notifications on anything, Tomorrow weather. For much better maps, WeatherMap. For comparing multiple models, try Windy.app. For coastal barrier island use, I have 8 graphed at once, most of them EU models. Very little reason for any weather app beyond Carrot, though Apple Weather is surprising evolved from the app of 20 years ago, no longer the 4th app to replace after messaging, maps, and browser). Carrot is the only weather app with a vicious weather control AI singing an entire Broadway concept album about your destruction at you though.
- shakiness3383 8mo ago
  I appreciate the uncertainty approach of Acme, but it’s not very meaningful if the methods are black box (just a generic list of agency sources isn’t informative). Something like meteoblue is much more robust and transparent. Will have to give Carrot a try, sounds promising.
agluszak 8mo ago
Why is that? I know that some US-based news websites choose the nuclear option of completely disabling access to EU-based users instead of complying with EU laws. But weather app? What problem do they have with supporting EU users?
StopDisinfo910 8mo ago
Why would you pay a subscription for a weather app in the EU when national providers are already so good? I guess they wanted to focus on the US market at first because they know there is money to be made there.
- bromuro 8mo ago
  EU weather apps usually have an horrible UX. This one seems pretty cool and I’d pay for it if it would be available. I now use the ugly Windy.com app and the weather ios app.
mlrtime 8mo ago
Why not look into it instead of complaining about something you have no right to have in the first place? Maybe the market is too small, maybe it will come with the next version, maybe there are EU barriers that prevent implementation? This constant complaining about something that didn't exist 1 second ago is tiresome.
- bromuro 8mo ago
  Dark Sky weather app never landed in Europe while it was available in US for years. The complaint is legit.
sixtyj 8mo ago
Windy.com - both website and app. It covers the whole world and seems that they have very large number of models available.
- esperent 8mo ago
  Also yr.no app - the Norwegian weather service. Covers the whole world, uses a decent selection of models. I go between this and windy.
caseyohara 8mo ago
I doubt people would complain this much if they came across a weather app that is only supported in the EU or China or India. No one would say Yet another China-only app with China-only weather, I guess, like countless others… "Obsessing" over your icons and user interface won't make your app useful to people you explicitly do not provide your app to. Build your own EU weather app if you care so much. No one is obligated to support their software in the part of the world you happen to live.
WarmWash 8mo ago
All Europe has to do is let grind-culture young people become billionaires and they'll have all the cool (and necessary) software they could imagine. The US might suck socially, but the other side of that coin is that it gets all the cool stuff.
skadamat 8mo ago
My understanding is that they're just starting out with the app. Someone posted it to HN prematurely. Dark Sky expanded to support global weather and I'm sure Acme will as will.
stronglikedan 8mo ago
Not available on Android either, so... no big deal. They're just starting out. Give them a chance to grow.

by jwr 8mo ago

lionkor 8mo ago

I'm in Germany and I really enjoy the Norwegian weather app YR, it's nice and simple and very clean.

ca6d8815 8mo ago

Try your local weather app. Here in Switzerland the MeteoSwiss app is absolutely wonderful, and has all these main features: - Uncertainty bands in the forecast (the bands are a better UX than more lines imo) - User-supplied reports - Many many many different maps (snow / cloud / wind / sunshine / air quality / etc) - Alerts (not notifications, but real alerts to watch out for something) Plus many more other features. I found Yr in Norway also good (and on the web you also get uncertainty in the 21 day forecast https://www.yr.no/en/21-day-forecast/1-305409/Norway/Troms/Troms%C3%B8/Troms%C3%B8 https://www.yr.no/en/21-day-forecast/1-305409/Norway/Troms/T...). Local weather services shouldn't be overlooked (and they're "free"... save for taxes!).

mr_mitm 8mo ago
WarnWetter for Germany. Costs a symbolic 1 Euro for dumb reasons, but I think it's easily worth it.
k4rli 8mo ago
yr.no tends to be most accurate for Scandi+Baltics somehow pretty often. Ventusky has the best app experience in Android with many different layers like wind, precipitation, air quality and many more. Can only recommend this as well.
fastasucan 8mo ago
Yes! They are much better. Yr has a great API as well.
sschueller 8mo ago
In Switzerland all weather data is now also open and accessible via API. You can also use it for commercial purposes. https://www.meteoswiss.admin.ch/services-and-publications/service/open-data.html https://www.meteoswiss.admin.ch/services-and-publications/se...
jwr 8mo ago
I actually use (and pay a subscription for) Windy, which is local (EU) and has data from a multitude of providers (some of which aren't free). My comment was a critique of a launching approach that I find annoying, because I would never dare to launch an app ignoring most of the world.
- ratrocket 8mo ago
  Is that the blue windy or the red windy? I can never keep them straight!

pixelesque 8mo ago

Yeah, odd to show an example screenshot with France and Spain on the map if it's not available there...

NoboruWataya 8mo ago

BreezyWeather is a pretty good open source option for Android, if you are looking. Gives you plenty of options of data providers to use. https://github.com/breezy-weather/breezy-weather https://github.com/breezy-weather/breezy-weather

ho_schi 8mo ago

It looks nice. Less nice but very good in Germany is DWD Warn Weather: https://apps.apple.com/de/app/dwd-warnwetter/id986420993?l=en-GB https://apps.apple.com/de/app/dwd-warnwetter/id986420993?l=e... Yes. We pay for it with taxes! And again with our money in the App Store. But the app success is build upon the lawsuit from WetterOnline which is a private company. https://www.bundesgerichtshof.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilungen/DE/2020/2020028.html https://www.bundesgerichtshof.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilung... The lawsuit backfired and made the state funded app well known. WetterOnline attacked the DWD because the state funded app is superior :) I think in Italy they have some similar app. Would be nice if the EU helps us to unify the app. And add offline capabilities, bad or no internet happens. The weather radar is offline of less use but the forecast still helps. They release videos for dangerous weather on YouTube. We’ll know for regular people, in regular cloths, speaking like regular Germans. Everyone loves it :) I like it when important services are provided by the state and private companies. Save foundation! In worst case the state is always better. In best case they compete and public benefits. In this case the private company just sucks. But they made a good job in advertising for DWD ^^ PS: If someone would implement a nice weather for Linux (best Gtk) based upon DWD public data? DO IT!

Terretta 8mo ago

Has EU weather sources per credits (DWD, ECMWF, EUMETSAT -- roughly what it's doing is graphing multiple models), but if you are into weather apps you're likely best off with Carrot that (a) lets you design your own UI including matching this (more or less), and (b) lets you choose among weather sources and flip among them with a tap. If it's about cute UI and key notifications, try Hello Weather. For microcell notifications on anything, Tomorrow weather. For much better maps, WeatherMap. For comparing multiple models, try Windy.app. For coastal barrier island use, I have 8 graphed at once, most of them EU models. Very little reason for any weather app beyond Carrot, though Apple Weather is surprising evolved from the app of 20 years ago, no longer the 4th app to replace after messaging, maps, and browser). Carrot is the only weather app with a vicious weather control AI singing an entire Broadway concept album about your destruction at you though.

shakiness3383 8mo ago
I appreciate the uncertainty approach of Acme, but it’s not very meaningful if the methods are black box (just a generic list of agency sources isn’t informative). Something like meteoblue is much more robust and transparent. Will have to give Carrot a try, sounds promising.

agluszak 8mo ago

Why is that? I know that some US-based news websites choose the nuclear option of completely disabling access to EU-based users instead of complying with EU laws. But weather app? What problem do they have with supporting EU users?

StopDisinfo910 8mo ago

Why would you pay a subscription for a weather app in the EU when national providers are already so good? I guess they wanted to focus on the US market at first because they know there is money to be made there.

bromuro 8mo ago
EU weather apps usually have an horrible UX. This one seems pretty cool and I’d pay for it if it would be available. I now use the ugly Windy.com app and the weather ios app.

mlrtime 8mo ago

Why not look into it instead of complaining about something you have no right to have in the first place? Maybe the market is too small, maybe it will come with the next version, maybe there are EU barriers that prevent implementation? This constant complaining about something that didn't exist 1 second ago is tiresome.

bromuro 8mo ago
Dark Sky weather app never landed in Europe while it was available in US for years. The complaint is legit.

sixtyj 8mo ago

Windy.com - both website and app. It covers the whole world and seems that they have very large number of models available.

esperent 8mo ago
Also yr.no app - the Norwegian weather service. Covers the whole world, uses a decent selection of models. I go between this and windy.

caseyohara 8mo ago

I doubt people would complain this much if they came across a weather app that is only supported in the EU or China or India. No one would say Yet another China-only app with China-only weather, I guess, like countless others… "Obsessing" over your icons and user interface won't make your app useful to people you explicitly do not provide your app to. Build your own EU weather app if you care so much. No one is obligated to support their software in the part of the world you happen to live.

WarmWash 8mo ago

All Europe has to do is let grind-culture young people become billionaires and they'll have all the cool (and necessary) software they could imagine. The US might suck socially, but the other side of that coin is that it gets all the cool stuff.

skadamat 8mo ago

My understanding is that they're just starting out with the app. Someone posted it to HN prematurely. Dark Sky expanded to support global weather and I'm sure Acme will as will.

stronglikedan 8mo ago

Not available on Android either, so... no big deal. They're just starting out. Give them a chance to grow.