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So the world should cared to your needs when literally almost every adult has a phone even in third world countries? Before you say “what about the poor people

So the world should cared to your needs when literally almost every adult has a phone even in third world countries? Before you say “what about the poor people” in the US at least, even poor people can get a subsidized free phone through the UCF (?) government fund Also see: no I’m not going to waste development time di you can get to a website I develop with JS disabled or so you can use lynx

kelvinjps10 9mo ago
Because phones keep tracking us and stealing our attention. And everybody should have the option of open computer systems
- raw_anon_1111 9mo ago
  So exactly how do you think an “open phone” will keep you from being tracked when you are tracked and can be triangulated via cell phone towers?
  - olyjohn 9mo ago
    He's referring to his activity ON THE DEVICE. We know you can't stop the location tracking from the carrier. But that doesn't mean give up on everything else.
    - raw_anon_1111 9mo ago
      Worrying about random app tracking you - which is a boogeyman in and of itself on iOS - and nog worrying about the government tracking you is like being concerned about a mosquito bite when you have a bullet hole.
  - deejaaymac 9mo ago
    The faraday bag I keep with me in my backpack!
EvanAnderson 9mo ago
> So the world should cared to your needs when literally almost every adult has a phone even in third world countries? The assumption that everyone has a "smart phone" running locked-down Android or iOS is unreasonable. Just as race, sex, religion, national origin, etc, are protected classes, the "phoneless" should be a protected class. Denying people who choose not to use a locked down phone basic interaction with your business should be legally equivalent to posting a "No blacks allowed" sign on your door, and the consequences should be the same. > Also see: no I’m not going to waste development time di you can get to a website I develop with JS disabled or so you can use lynx I don't see what this non-sequitur has to do with the exchange. I didn't bring anything up about Javascript.
- raw_anon_1111 9mo ago
  Oh please, really? As a Black guy whose still living parents grew up in the segregated South. Comparing not being able to use a Linux phone to segregation is really taking it too far. You have not a single clue what it was like growing up in the Jim Crow South. This conversation is officially done.

kelvinjps10 9mo ago

Because phones keep tracking us and stealing our attention. And everybody should have the option of open computer systems

raw_anon_1111 9mo ago
So exactly how do you think an “open phone” will keep you from being tracked when you are tracked and can be triangulated via cell phone towers?
- olyjohn 9mo ago
  He's referring to his activity ON THE DEVICE. We know you can't stop the location tracking from the carrier. But that doesn't mean give up on everything else.
  - raw_anon_1111 9mo ago
    Worrying about random app tracking you - which is a boogeyman in and of itself on iOS - and nog worrying about the government tracking you is like being concerned about a mosquito bite when you have a bullet hole.
- deejaaymac 9mo ago
  The faraday bag I keep with me in my backpack!

EvanAnderson 9mo ago

> So the world should cared to your needs when literally almost every adult has a phone even in third world countries? The assumption that everyone has a "smart phone" running locked-down Android or iOS is unreasonable. Just as race, sex, religion, national origin, etc, are protected classes, the "phoneless" should be a protected class. Denying people who choose not to use a locked down phone basic interaction with your business should be legally equivalent to posting a "No blacks allowed" sign on your door, and the consequences should be the same. > Also see: no I’m not going to waste development time di you can get to a website I develop with JS disabled or so you can use lynx I don't see what this non-sequitur has to do with the exchange. I didn't bring anything up about Javascript.

raw_anon_1111 9mo ago
Oh please, really? As a Black guy whose still living parents grew up in the segregated South. Comparing not being able to use a Linux phone to segregation is really taking it too far. You have not a single clue what it was like growing up in the Jim Crow South. This conversation is officially done.