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Altered snapshots = hide Nora name? ArsTechica just did the same - removed Nora from older articles. How can you trust ArsTechica after that?

Jordan-117 8mo ago
They didn't just remove her name, but replaced it with the target's name. I don't know what you're talking about re: Ars removing her name from old articles.
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- ouhamouch 8mo ago
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- Jordan-117 7mo ago
  Follow-up: maybe you're confusing Ars Technica with Wikipedia, whose admins did redact Nora's last name from discussions? If so, that's a weird equivalence to draw, since the change was disclosed and done to protect personal information, not attack someone else in the process. (Also, "Nora [redacted]" itself seems to be a name lifted from an unrelated person who had merely contacted Archive.today with a takedown request.)
  - Smartchat 7mo ago
    1. I can't post links (I've already tried), my comments with links are getting shadowbanned. Check out Jon Brodkin's article on Ars about AT, not today's, but the previous one, 6 days ago. Nora's name was there, but now it's silently gone. 2. We learned about Nora's involvement from Patokallio. We learned about Nora's non-involvement... also from Patokallio. They could have reached a settlement with AT that includes hiding Nora's name. 3. Regardless of who Nora is, it is interesting to see the extent of this censorship: so far only gyrovague.com and arstechnica.com, but not tomshardware.com and not tech.yahoo.com. This shows which sites are working closely with the AT defamation campaign, and which are simply copywriting the news feed.
    - Jordan-117 7mo ago
      Silently? It tells you right there in the article: "Nora [last name redacted]". Maybe they could add a more fulsome explanation in an editor's note but it seems pretty obvious in context. If AT is appropriating some random person's name as an alias, it seems helpful to report on that publicly in order to expose the practice and help clear up the misinformation.
      - Smartchat 7mo ago
        Silently. Last article. Not today's. One with title 'Archive.today CAPTCHA page executes DDoS; Wikipedia considers banning site' I'll try to add the link with comment edit: This has Nora's name https://web.archive.org/web/20260210195502/https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/wikipedia-might-blacklist-archive-today-after-site-maintainer-ddosed-a-blog/ https://web.archive.org/web/20260210195502/https://arstechni... The current version has not
        Jordan-117 7mo ago
        Even if they did, so what? There's nothing wrong with a news article removing personal information as a precaution. It's light-years away from altering the content of an archival snapshot in order to target someone else.
        Smartchat 7mo ago
        Well, that's the only name they removed, even though it didn't stand out among the other names in the investigation. Secondly, it's ironic to do so in an article tagged "Streisand Effect" so perhaps we're witnessing part of the performance. And thirdly, it's strange to blame AT for removing... the same name, and not blame Ars. Immediately accusing... AT of double standards and hypocrisy. I am lost here. It is definitively an organized defamation campaign. “You are guilty simply because I am hungry”
        Jordan-117 7mo ago

Jordan-117 8mo ago

They didn't just remove her name, but replaced it with the target's name. I don't know what you're talking about re: Ars removing her name from old articles.

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Jordan-117 7mo ago
Follow-up: maybe you're confusing Ars Technica with Wikipedia, whose admins did redact Nora's last name from discussions? If so, that's a weird equivalence to draw, since the change was disclosed and done to protect personal information, not attack someone else in the process. (Also, "Nora [redacted]" itself seems to be a name lifted from an unrelated person who had merely contacted Archive.today with a takedown request.)
- Smartchat 7mo ago
  1. I can't post links (I've already tried), my comments with links are getting shadowbanned. Check out Jon Brodkin's article on Ars about AT, not today's, but the previous one, 6 days ago. Nora's name was there, but now it's silently gone. 2. We learned about Nora's involvement from Patokallio. We learned about Nora's non-involvement... also from Patokallio. They could have reached a settlement with AT that includes hiding Nora's name. 3. Regardless of who Nora is, it is interesting to see the extent of this censorship: so far only gyrovague.com and arstechnica.com, but not tomshardware.com and not tech.yahoo.com. This shows which sites are working closely with the AT defamation campaign, and which are simply copywriting the news feed.
  - Jordan-117 7mo ago
    Silently? It tells you right there in the article: "Nora [last name redacted]". Maybe they could add a more fulsome explanation in an editor's note but it seems pretty obvious in context. If AT is appropriating some random person's name as an alias, it seems helpful to report on that publicly in order to expose the practice and help clear up the misinformation.
    - Smartchat 7mo ago
      Silently. Last article. Not today's. One with title 'Archive.today CAPTCHA page executes DDoS; Wikipedia considers banning site' I'll try to add the link with comment edit: This has Nora's name https://web.archive.org/web/20260210195502/https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/02/wikipedia-might-blacklist-archive-today-after-site-maintainer-ddosed-a-blog/ https://web.archive.org/web/20260210195502/https://arstechni... The current version has not
      - Jordan-117 7mo ago
        Even if they did, so what? There's nothing wrong with a news article removing personal information as a precaution. It's light-years away from altering the content of an archival snapshot in order to target someone else.
        Smartchat 7mo ago
        Well, that's the only name they removed, even though it didn't stand out among the other names in the investigation. Secondly, it's ironic to do so in an article tagged "Streisand Effect" so perhaps we're witnessing part of the performance. And thirdly, it's strange to blame AT for removing... the same name, and not blame Ars. Immediately accusing... AT of double standards and hypocrisy. I am lost here. It is definitively an organized defamation campaign. “You are guilty simply because I am hungry”
        Jordan-117 7mo ago