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Congrats on shipping! Two things, does anyone else feel like 2017 was not 9 years ago and rather feels like it was just yesterday? I use a 2017 iMac running M

by dev-ns8 8mo ago

Congrats on shipping! Two things, does anyone else feel like 2017 was not 9 years ago and rather feels like it was just yesterday? I use a 2017 iMac running MacOS 13.7.8. It appears my hardware will not support any newer version of MacOS. For the most part, I haven't been too discouraged by this as I prefer older MacOS designs over the newer ones. However, this is the second time in 2 days I've actually hit a wall in the Apple eco-system due to an older OS. Last night I tried to build Ghostty to hack on a feature... it needs Xcode SDK 26 which isn't supported on Xcode 14 (latest version I'm able to install). Now today, attempting to try this app out, I can't launch it due to being on too old of an OS. It's really a shame because this iMac from 2017 is quite the capable machine. Absolutely no reason to upgrade it (from a hardware / performance standpoint).

IronsideXXVI 8mo ago
Hey there! What OS version are you using? This app should run on Mac os 14 and later.
- sjs382 8mo ago
  > I use a 2017 iMac running MacOS 13.7.8
  - ryandrake 8mo ago
    The absolute newest Mac in my home is a 2017 and is limited to 13.7.8, also. It's still a beast, and I've never really thought of it as "old." The macOS (and iOS) ecosystem, though, is brutal on us "slightly older" hardware owners. We get dropped so quickly, by both Apple and by 3rd party developers. Windows developers would think nothing of keeping their applications running on Windows 7 (16 years old) or Windows 10 (11 years old), but my 9 year old Mac is somehow ancient.
    - dijit 8mo ago
      Is that true? Subtle bugs always find their way in increasing amounts for Windows applications that continue getting software releases; we tend not notice because we all run actually supported versions most of the time, and even when we dont- its only for a year. I see people on youtube trying to make “modern desktop” experiences on Windows 7 and 8; and it takes some serious doing with all the incompatibility with things like browsers. Dialogues about missing features crashing you to desktop more often than working. So much so that there are dedicated forks of chrome and firefox to support this purpose.
- msephton 8mo ago
  I'm interested in what part of the design is limiting your app to macOS 14?
  - marcelox86 8mo ago
    not the design per se (however you are right that theres a lot of swiftui usage here that is only available on newer macos’) but mainly because it is using the new @Observable observation macro that is only available on macOS 14+
    - msephton 8mo ago
      Thanks for the info! I'm tracking so far behind the Swift "state of the art" in my apps. But, if it ain't broke...
- morphle 8mo ago
  Many Intel Macs are stuck at MacOS 12, Monterey
password4321 8mo ago
In case you weren't aware: https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher macOS Big Sur and newer on machines as old as 2007 macOS Big Sur, Monterey, Ventura, Sonoma and Sequoia Personally I'm hapy with my old macOS in no small part thanks to https://www.macports.org https://www.macports.org

by dev-ns8 8mo ago

IronsideXXVI 8mo ago

Hey there! What OS version are you using? This app should run on Mac os 14 and later.

sjs382 8mo ago
> I use a 2017 iMac running MacOS 13.7.8
- ryandrake 8mo ago
  The absolute newest Mac in my home is a 2017 and is limited to 13.7.8, also. It's still a beast, and I've never really thought of it as "old." The macOS (and iOS) ecosystem, though, is brutal on us "slightly older" hardware owners. We get dropped so quickly, by both Apple and by 3rd party developers. Windows developers would think nothing of keeping their applications running on Windows 7 (16 years old) or Windows 10 (11 years old), but my 9 year old Mac is somehow ancient.
  - dijit 8mo ago
    Is that true? Subtle bugs always find their way in increasing amounts for Windows applications that continue getting software releases; we tend not notice because we all run actually supported versions most of the time, and even when we dont- its only for a year. I see people on youtube trying to make “modern desktop” experiences on Windows 7 and 8; and it takes some serious doing with all the incompatibility with things like browsers. Dialogues about missing features crashing you to desktop more often than working. So much so that there are dedicated forks of chrome and firefox to support this purpose.
msephton 8mo ago
I'm interested in what part of the design is limiting your app to macOS 14?
- marcelox86 8mo ago
  not the design per se (however you are right that theres a lot of swiftui usage here that is only available on newer macos’) but mainly because it is using the new @Observable observation macro that is only available on macOS 14+
  - msephton 8mo ago
    Thanks for the info! I'm tracking so far behind the Swift "state of the art" in my apps. But, if it ain't broke...
morphle 8mo ago
Many Intel Macs are stuck at MacOS 12, Monterey

password4321 8mo ago

In case you weren't aware: https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher macOS Big Sur and newer on machines as old as 2007 macOS Big Sur, Monterey, Ventura, Sonoma and Sequoia Personally I'm hapy with my old macOS in no small part thanks to https://www.macports.org https://www.macports.org