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I'm not clear on what Tesla is doing these days. They've been left in the dust on autonomous driving, they've failed to update their successful car models, and

I'm not clear on what Tesla is doing these days. They've been left in the dust on autonomous driving, they've failed to update their successful car models, and their only new model was a spectacular failure.

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mey 8mo ago
Ask the CEO? Based on recent incentives and acquisitions, are they planning to remain a car company?
- palmotea 8mo ago
  >> I'm not clear on what Tesla is doing these days. > Ask the CEO? Based on recent incentives and acquisitions, are they planning to remain a car company? I believe Musk wants to hype humanoid robots, because he can't get away with irrationally hyping electric cars or self-driving technology like you used to. Tesla was never a car company, their real product is sci-fi dreams.
  - blackjack_ 8mo ago
    Agreed, and he’s already behind in humanoid robots, so the hype there won’t last long. The problem is that China is obliterating him at every turn because they actually build things that work instead of just hyping things and saying fake numbers of how much money it could be if every human on the planet bought 20.
m463 8mo ago
My question too. though they did update the model y (looks like a duck), they just cancelled the model S and X
mr_00ff00 8mo ago
Yet Tesla is trading near its all time high.
bryanlarsen 8mo ago
And as the lunar new year demo dance shows, China is leaving them in the dust building humanoid robots.
Almondsetat 8mo ago
By which metrics has Tesla been left in the dust wrt autonomous driving? Right now they are the only brand where you can buy a car and have it do basically 90% (or sometimes 100%) of your daily driving. Sure, it's supervised, but the alternatives are literally extremely geogated taxis
- bigyabai 8mo ago
  It's not free, is it? You buy the car, subscribe to their arbitrarily-priced subscription service, and then it does 90% of your driving. That's like paying for a "self-juicing juicer" that only works with proprietary juice packages sold through an overpriced subscription. Edit: Mostly a criticism. I have no bone to pick with Elon, but subscription slopware is the reason why Chinese EVs are more desirable to average Joes like me.
  - Almondsetat 8mo ago
    This is a goalpost move
  - mr_00ff00 8mo ago
    You could argue though Tesla isn’t targeting the average Joe, since they basically still haven’t made a affordable EV that they have mentioned they are working on (I think the new affordable cyber truck is still above the 40k promise, and they hinted the price will likely rise). For luxury car owners or people who want the statement, subscriptions are good way to capture additional payment. Since if customers wanted to pick the cheapest option, they would have already picked something else.
- WarmWash 8mo ago
  Tesla has a level 3 system that it's willing to gamble on not needing intervention for a handful of miles for a handful of Tesla fanboys. It's very telling that their "level 4" robotaxis are basically unicorns and only exist (existed? it's not clear they are even available anymore) in a single neighborhood subsection of the level 3 robotaxis full area in Austin. Waymo on the other hand has a level 4 system, and has for many years, in many cities, with large service areas. Tesla is unquestionably in the dust here, and the delusional, er, faithful are holding out for this mythical switch flip where Elon snaps his fingers and every Tesla turns into a level 4 robotaxi (despite the compute power in these cars being on the level of a GTX 5090, and the robotaxis having custom hardware loadouts)
WarmWash 8mo ago
Optimus robots! In 2 years Tesla will be replacing most factory workers with fully autonomous robots that will do most of the work. This will generate trillions in revenue and is totally definitely trust me bro possible. Expect huge updates on this coming in the near future, soon. Tesla will be the most valuable company on Earth. Get in the stock now. (cars, solar panels, energy storage, and robotaxis are no longer part of the roadmap because optimus bots will bring in so much money in 2 years definitiely that these things won't matter so don't ask about them or think about them thanks.)
slowmovintarget 8mo ago
https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-electric-vehicle-experience-evx-ownership-study https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-elec... Tesla Model 3 highest overall in owner satisfaction. "Left in the dust?"
- protimewaster 8mo ago
  I don't understand how that's a retort against the claim that they've "been left in the dust on autonomous driving". Are you contending that autonomous driving is the only reason that Tesla owners would like their cars?
- mrguyorama 8mo ago
  JD power is a company you pay to give you an award. That's why Chevy has a bunch from them, including "Highest initial quality"

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mey 8mo ago

Ask the CEO? Based on recent incentives and acquisitions, are they planning to remain a car company?

palmotea 8mo ago
>> I'm not clear on what Tesla is doing these days. > Ask the CEO? Based on recent incentives and acquisitions, are they planning to remain a car company? I believe Musk wants to hype humanoid robots, because he can't get away with irrationally hyping electric cars or self-driving technology like you used to. Tesla was never a car company, their real product is sci-fi dreams.
- blackjack_ 8mo ago
  Agreed, and he’s already behind in humanoid robots, so the hype there won’t last long. The problem is that China is obliterating him at every turn because they actually build things that work instead of just hyping things and saying fake numbers of how much money it could be if every human on the planet bought 20.

m463 8mo ago

My question too. though they did update the model y (looks like a duck), they just cancelled the model S and X

mr_00ff00 8mo ago

Yet Tesla is trading near its all time high.

bryanlarsen 8mo ago

And as the lunar new year demo dance shows, China is leaving them in the dust building humanoid robots.

Almondsetat 8mo ago

By which metrics has Tesla been left in the dust wrt autonomous driving? Right now they are the only brand where you can buy a car and have it do basically 90% (or sometimes 100%) of your daily driving. Sure, it's supervised, but the alternatives are literally extremely geogated taxis

bigyabai 8mo ago
It's not free, is it? You buy the car, subscribe to their arbitrarily-priced subscription service, and then it does 90% of your driving. That's like paying for a "self-juicing juicer" that only works with proprietary juice packages sold through an overpriced subscription. Edit: Mostly a criticism. I have no bone to pick with Elon, but subscription slopware is the reason why Chinese EVs are more desirable to average Joes like me.
- Almondsetat 8mo ago
  This is a goalpost move
- mr_00ff00 8mo ago
  You could argue though Tesla isn’t targeting the average Joe, since they basically still haven’t made a affordable EV that they have mentioned they are working on (I think the new affordable cyber truck is still above the 40k promise, and they hinted the price will likely rise). For luxury car owners or people who want the statement, subscriptions are good way to capture additional payment. Since if customers wanted to pick the cheapest option, they would have already picked something else.
WarmWash 8mo ago
Tesla has a level 3 system that it's willing to gamble on not needing intervention for a handful of miles for a handful of Tesla fanboys. It's very telling that their "level 4" robotaxis are basically unicorns and only exist (existed? it's not clear they are even available anymore) in a single neighborhood subsection of the level 3 robotaxis full area in Austin. Waymo on the other hand has a level 4 system, and has for many years, in many cities, with large service areas. Tesla is unquestionably in the dust here, and the delusional, er, faithful are holding out for this mythical switch flip where Elon snaps his fingers and every Tesla turns into a level 4 robotaxi (despite the compute power in these cars being on the level of a GTX 5090, and the robotaxis having custom hardware loadouts)

WarmWash 8mo ago

Optimus robots! In 2 years Tesla will be replacing most factory workers with fully autonomous robots that will do most of the work. This will generate trillions in revenue and is totally definitely trust me bro possible. Expect huge updates on this coming in the near future, soon. Tesla will be the most valuable company on Earth. Get in the stock now. (cars, solar panels, energy storage, and robotaxis are no longer part of the roadmap because optimus bots will bring in so much money in 2 years definitiely that these things won't matter so don't ask about them or think about them thanks.)

slowmovintarget 8mo ago

https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-electric-vehicle-experience-evx-ownership-study https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2026-us-elec... Tesla Model 3 highest overall in owner satisfaction. "Left in the dust?"

protimewaster 8mo ago
I don't understand how that's a retort against the claim that they've "been left in the dust on autonomous driving". Are you contending that autonomous driving is the only reason that Tesla owners would like their cars?
mrguyorama 8mo ago
JD power is a company you pay to give you an award. That's why Chevy has a bunch from them, including "Highest initial quality"