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Likely falling on the 'old' side of the spectrum of posters here, I can't help but feel quite sentimental when I see these kind of articles - and regret, once a

by mb_72 14y ago

Likely falling on the 'old' side of the spectrum of posters here, I can't help but feel quite sentimental when I see these kind of articles - and regret, once again, that I wasn't born earlier so I could a) participate in the 'when it was still fun' age of computer hardware development and b) be retired by now!

ChuckMcM 14y ago
Trust me, computers are more fun now. But if you would like to experiment with computer architectures, you can get something like the Altera DE-2 [1] and play around with really crazy sauce kinds of things, n-way associative cache with CAM register banks and dynamic register renaming? No problemo! And you do it all without soldering or wire-wrapping or anything. I have some PDP-8's and I love them dearly, but it is soo much easier doing stuff on an Arduino than a PDP-8/e. [1] http://www.altera.com/education/univ/materials/boards/de2/unv-de2-board.html http://www.altera.com/education/univ/materials/boards/de2/un...
- abruzzi 14y ago
  Computers can do more now, but relative to expectations of the time, computers were more fun then because they were new. I had more fun with my Apple //e and later Amiga 1000 than I have ever had with an iPhone, because expectations were lower, and just moving a sprite across the screen was impressive.
  - ChuckMcM 14y ago
    Whose expectations? Yours or someone else's ? Were computers new or where you new to computers? So I went through an interesting series of transformations, first I was amazed about everything 'computer', I built my own Z80 machine, I ran through all of the languages that the mainframe the highschool had access too, I wrote games, "operating systems", computer languages, and various diversions just for fun. All the way through to about the mid-90's when I started working on the system that would become Java. The new stuff was fun, Sun's politics were soul crushing. I lost my sense of 'wonder' about doing cool things. It took me a while, wandering in the desert to realize that I was piling up all of these negative experiences against something I loved doing (systems design). I discovered it could be way fun to bring VMS up on an old VAX and show it off, to demonstrate active/active fail-over clustering on something as 'stupid' as a proprietary SCSI bus. The reason that was fun and 'regular' computers were not (to me at least) was that regular computers represented 'work' and 'the man' but these other computers were untainted. I committed myself to re-invigorating my 'wonder' and haven't looked back since.
  - mchanson 14y ago
    I had an ST rather than Amiga. So we know I'm suspect ;). But I, when I got my 3GS iPhone, kept telling folks it was my favorite computer I ever owned. Still feel that way.
- tluyben2 14y ago
  I really love the pace at which computers are going; I have the latest smartphones, tablets and laptops. But I also have Spectrums, MSXs, PC1210, TRS 80(-100 and others), Amiga, ST and other bits and pieces. It's a very different thing; I really love the fact I can do anything on something I can balance on my nose for an entire day, but fun wise I like soldering 74 series extending things. Being able to write an OS and understanding every single part of it, hardware and software. Sure things are 'easier' now and that's a lot of fun for some things but I find it interesting and calming to leave the large amount of black box and extreme complexity in modern systems in my spare time.

by mb_72 14y ago

ChuckMcM 14y ago

Trust me, computers are more fun now. But if you would like to experiment with computer architectures, you can get something like the Altera DE-2 [1] and play around with really crazy sauce kinds of things, n-way associative cache with CAM register banks and dynamic register renaming? No problemo! And you do it all without soldering or wire-wrapping or anything. I have some PDP-8's and I love them dearly, but it is soo much easier doing stuff on an Arduino than a PDP-8/e. [1] http://www.altera.com/education/univ/materials/boards/de2/unv-de2-board.html http://www.altera.com/education/univ/materials/boards/de2/un...

abruzzi 14y ago
Computers can do more now, but relative to expectations of the time, computers were more fun then because they were new. I had more fun with my Apple //e and later Amiga 1000 than I have ever had with an iPhone, because expectations were lower, and just moving a sprite across the screen was impressive.
- ChuckMcM 14y ago
  Whose expectations? Yours or someone else's ? Were computers new or where you new to computers? So I went through an interesting series of transformations, first I was amazed about everything 'computer', I built my own Z80 machine, I ran through all of the languages that the mainframe the highschool had access too, I wrote games, "operating systems", computer languages, and various diversions just for fun. All the way through to about the mid-90's when I started working on the system that would become Java. The new stuff was fun, Sun's politics were soul crushing. I lost my sense of 'wonder' about doing cool things. It took me a while, wandering in the desert to realize that I was piling up all of these negative experiences against something I loved doing (systems design). I discovered it could be way fun to bring VMS up on an old VAX and show it off, to demonstrate active/active fail-over clustering on something as 'stupid' as a proprietary SCSI bus. The reason that was fun and 'regular' computers were not (to me at least) was that regular computers represented 'work' and 'the man' but these other computers were untainted. I committed myself to re-invigorating my 'wonder' and haven't looked back since.
- mchanson 14y ago
  I had an ST rather than Amiga. So we know I'm suspect ;). But I, when I got my 3GS iPhone, kept telling folks it was my favorite computer I ever owned. Still feel that way.
tluyben2 14y ago
I really love the pace at which computers are going; I have the latest smartphones, tablets and laptops. But I also have Spectrums, MSXs, PC1210, TRS 80(-100 and others), Amiga, ST and other bits and pieces. It's a very different thing; I really love the fact I can do anything on something I can balance on my nose for an entire day, but fun wise I like soldering 74 series extending things. Being able to write an OS and understanding every single part of it, hardware and software. Sure things are 'easier' now and that's a lot of fun for some things but I find it interesting and calming to leave the large amount of black box and extreme complexity in modern systems in my spare time.