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That's awesome! I love that energy, it's the opposite of the energy I was trying to talk about in the post actually, you're not trying to tell me why your app i
by ianbutler 8mo ago
That's awesome! I love that energy, it's the opposite of the energy I was trying to talk about in the post actually, you're not trying to tell me why your app is the best thing in the world and spamming it everywhere when it has nothing to offer me or other people, and having not considered other people.
- selridge 8mo agoWhy don’t you tell them that they have no taste? Seems to be what the essay implies.
- ianbutler 8mo agoBecause right now they are actually being tasteful?
- selridge 8mo agoI suspect because it’s harder to defend your thesis to a person who is excited about what they made. It’s super easy to talk about who has taste or not in the abstract. A lot harder to tell someone straight up they have no taste because of some idea you have.
- ianbutler 8mo agoNope it's exactly what I said, by choosing not to put it out to all of us because its only for them, that is actually being tasteful. It's very simple.
- tptacek 8mo agoWhere by "spamming" you mean daring to post it to HN under a "Show HN" title.
- ianbutler 8mo agoAmong other places sure, I pivoted off the Show HN strictly, but it's fair for you to raise this given your thread was inspiration. Posting something to SHOW people without considering how people may want or need what you're showing is just bad etiquette anywhere frankly. If you're building for yourself that's great, maybe qualify it in your post because otherwise it's free game to judge poorly. Spam is inherently unwanted content, you don't get to decide what is wanted content the collective community does. It's something many of us have learned building software for years that all the new people building are going to figure out for themselves. Just because you can build it doesn't mean anyone will care if you're trying to show it off and with the flood of new apps, it's fair game to discuss. Edit: all of us -> many of us on the last paragraph
- tptacek 8mo agoThis is exactly the sentiment I detected in the previous thread, where a small group of people seem to have decided what the etiquette of daring to post a Show HN is. I'm not sure I remember being consulted on whether you should be keeping these gates for the rest of us. My reaction is the same as it was when people tried to argue Show HN was only for open-source software: says you.
- ianbutler 8mo agoI'm not gate keeping anything, to do that I would have to make specific statements beyond "consider other people when you post something" Right and my point is you (or i) will never be consulted, it happens emergently through community dynamics. No one sat in a group and decided this, Show HN in particular has always been selective. Different things are interesting to different sub groups and they select for different things. Show HN is not homogenous. My argument is not to not post, it's to post knowing who you hope to reach and why it would matter to them, don't just post to post, that is a large part of taste to me.
- internet2000 8mo ago> I'm not gate keeping anything, Might be unintentional then, but the language in your post comes across as a textbook case of gatekeeping.