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By the society we're part of, as a whole. This includes politics, industries, businesses, and ourselves. Individual decisions only go so far - you can decide t
by thibaut_barrere 14y ago
By the society we're part of, as a whole. This includes politics, industries, businesses, and ourselves.
Individual decisions only go so far - you can decide to "degrowth", but if the politics, or culture, or industries are oriented toward growth, this is pretty much a drop in the water (well until a given subject becomes suddenly important, like we saw with environmental issues in France a couple of years back).
If as a society we consider stability and sustainability to be more important than growth, then this affects a lot of our decisions: expectations of how long a given useful product should work (appliances etc), how we decide about things that are worth investing time and resources in, subjects to be taught at school, kind of jobs to be created etc.
Now a true "cultural" question: you mentioned that people should not "expect the rest of us to appreciate being forced to do it" - is that because in your country, there is an activism (perceived as negative?) around degrowth?
Honest question: I'd like to understand your initial reaction!
- jacques_chester 14y agoYou're sort of grasping that no one agent is actually in charge of the whole shebang -- that it's an emergent phenomenon. Any genuine attempt at degrowth will require some pretty unpopular policies. Folk like that their lives, on the whole, improve over time (modulo real estate in first world countries ... but that's another rant for another time). So it's possible to degrowth at an individual level; but at a societal level, it would require force and cause more disruption than people realise. And I'm agin' it.