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As a parent, I believe there is no book that should be banned from being used by a teacher for instruction. I have the responsibility of ensuring that the schoo

As a parent, I believe there is no book that should be banned from being used by a teacher for instruction. I have the responsibility of ensuring that the school my child attends employs teachers who I trust to make effective and age-appropriate curriculum decisions.

agensaequivocum 8mo ago
> I believe there is no book that should be banned from being used by a teacher for instruction This is an insane opinion. In the same way, I care about what movies, music, YouTube videos my children consume because they all can have a massive impact on a child's development.
- martythemaniak 8mo ago
  OP posted a super short 2 sentence post and yet you managed to take that out of context and twist it into the exact opposite of what they meant. Incredible. I don't think OP is the one with the insane opinions.
  - FatCat1979 8mo ago
    OP posted a comment that said they don't think there's anything off limit, which is the natural conclusion. Some things should not be shown to children. this should not be a controversial topic.
    - subpixel 8mo ago
      Find a book in a public school library that should not be shown to children, that’s so horrible it will warp minds. Is it conceivable that some librarian went off their meds and put a pornographic manga title on the shelf? Yea. But what we are talking about are books that are selected by educators getting banned because they represent ideas that small minds are threatened by.
- subpixel 8mo ago
  When we talk about books in school we are talking about books from mainstream publishers, distributed by educational distributors, and purchased by career librarians. There are zero such books that can be compared to the lot of things you are trying to compare them to.
Ajedi32 8mo ago
So you're saying if a teacher decides to use a book in class that's wholly inappropriate for the age group they're teaching we should ban the teacher, not the book? I suppose that makes sense. But if the book in question is still available in the school library for any 7 year old to read or check out isn't that still a potential problem?
- squigz 8mo ago
  Is it? Just because it's inappropriate for one age group at a school doesn't mean it's inappropriate for all age groups.
  - FatCat1979 8mo ago
    You can generally categorize the age groups present in a school by... looking at the grades served in the school. shocker.
    - squigz 8mo ago
      I'm not entirely sure what this is supposed to mean. Like... yes? But my point was, a school may have a very wide range of age groups. A K-12 school will have students from ages ~4 to ~18. Even a regular primary school will have 7 year olds along with 14 year olds. Point being, a book that is inappropriate for the younger students at a school may not be for the older students; and I don't see why the older students shouldn't have access to those books.
- subpixel 8mo ago
  Books are already made available to different age groups in different ways. Libraries that serve different ages put different books on different shelves. There are books on shelves young kids can’t reach, and there are books behind the counter.
phyzix5761 8mo ago
How do we ensure schools employ only teachers we trust? Whats the criteria and initial/review process? Also, teachers are human. They change views and opinions like the rest of us. What guarantees they don't break that trust?
- subpixel 8mo ago
  I’m active in local government - that’s how you make sure the school board is strong and the superintendent is the best candidate. But also voting is effective. But there are no guarantees - except that those who wish to ban access to books are never to be trusted.
ktm5j 8mo ago
I feel like you're making a silly distinction. I mean, we ban cigarette use for minors because it's bad for them.. are you against that too? You're admitting that you think certain books are inappropriate for kids, but saying that we shouldn't do anything about preventing their use in schools.. why? Not every kid goes to a school with wonderful teachers. I think banning books for use in schools is justifiable.

agensaequivocum 8mo ago

> I believe there is no book that should be banned from being used by a teacher for instruction This is an insane opinion. In the same way, I care about what movies, music, YouTube videos my children consume because they all can have a massive impact on a child's development.

martythemaniak 8mo ago
OP posted a super short 2 sentence post and yet you managed to take that out of context and twist it into the exact opposite of what they meant. Incredible. I don't think OP is the one with the insane opinions.
- FatCat1979 8mo ago
  OP posted a comment that said they don't think there's anything off limit, which is the natural conclusion. Some things should not be shown to children. this should not be a controversial topic.
  - subpixel 8mo ago
    Find a book in a public school library that should not be shown to children, that’s so horrible it will warp minds. Is it conceivable that some librarian went off their meds and put a pornographic manga title on the shelf? Yea. But what we are talking about are books that are selected by educators getting banned because they represent ideas that small minds are threatened by.
subpixel 8mo ago
When we talk about books in school we are talking about books from mainstream publishers, distributed by educational distributors, and purchased by career librarians. There are zero such books that can be compared to the lot of things you are trying to compare them to.

Ajedi32 8mo ago

So you're saying if a teacher decides to use a book in class that's wholly inappropriate for the age group they're teaching we should ban the teacher, not the book? I suppose that makes sense. But if the book in question is still available in the school library for any 7 year old to read or check out isn't that still a potential problem?

squigz 8mo ago
Is it? Just because it's inappropriate for one age group at a school doesn't mean it's inappropriate for all age groups.
- FatCat1979 8mo ago
  You can generally categorize the age groups present in a school by... looking at the grades served in the school. shocker.
  - squigz 8mo ago
    I'm not entirely sure what this is supposed to mean. Like... yes? But my point was, a school may have a very wide range of age groups. A K-12 school will have students from ages ~4 to ~18. Even a regular primary school will have 7 year olds along with 14 year olds. Point being, a book that is inappropriate for the younger students at a school may not be for the older students; and I don't see why the older students shouldn't have access to those books.
subpixel 8mo ago
Books are already made available to different age groups in different ways. Libraries that serve different ages put different books on different shelves. There are books on shelves young kids can’t reach, and there are books behind the counter.

phyzix5761 8mo ago

How do we ensure schools employ only teachers we trust? Whats the criteria and initial/review process? Also, teachers are human. They change views and opinions like the rest of us. What guarantees they don't break that trust?

subpixel 8mo ago
I’m active in local government - that’s how you make sure the school board is strong and the superintendent is the best candidate. But also voting is effective. But there are no guarantees - except that those who wish to ban access to books are never to be trusted.

ktm5j 8mo ago

I feel like you're making a silly distinction. I mean, we ban cigarette use for minors because it's bad for them.. are you against that too? You're admitting that you think certain books are inappropriate for kids, but saying that we shouldn't do anything about preventing their use in schools.. why? Not every kid goes to a school with wonderful teachers. I think banning books for use in schools is justifiable.