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Well yeah, but you gotta start somewhere, and it's not gonna get better if you drink cola, beer everyday and stay up until 2AM watching netflix.

rincebrain 9mo ago
I think GP's point is that "just do it" shows a lack of understanding that an inability to "just do X" is often a symptom of depression that leads to people not talking about it, because people who haven't experienced it think you must be lying about having decided to do something and not actually then doing it. Consider: there was a study about a guy who was paralyzed from the waist down, who got an implant to bypass the injury, and with a year+ of walking with the implant, could eventually walk to a limited extent without the implant.[1] This suggests walking can be used to treat loss of ability to walk. Unfortunately, there's a catch-22 there... ...and so too with inability to make yourself do anything. [1] - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06094-5 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06094-5
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jmye 9mo ago
> Well yeah, but you gotta start somewhere Wait, I thought those things solved depression? Why are you hedging now? Did your initial analysis suck, and you're just now realizing it? Are you figuring out that maybe this is slightly more complex than "just be happy" and that maybe you're not the only person on the planet who's ever thought about this?
- joe_mamba 9mo ago
  Your comment makes no sense. I never said "just be happy". Reformulate it and add more substance so we have something to talk about.
  - jmye 8mo ago
    Why do you think I have the responsibility to "add substance" to your non-substantive load of shit? You may not have said the literal words "be happy", but that is precisely what your "medical advice" amounted to. Perhaps it's time to stop having big, strident opinions about things you know you know absolutely nothing about?

rincebrain 9mo ago

I think GP's point is that "just do it" shows a lack of understanding that an inability to "just do X" is often a symptom of depression that leads to people not talking about it, because people who haven't experienced it think you must be lying about having decided to do something and not actually then doing it. Consider: there was a study about a guy who was paralyzed from the waist down, who got an implant to bypass the injury, and with a year+ of walking with the implant, could eventually walk to a limited extent without the implant.[1] This suggests walking can be used to treat loss of ability to walk. Unfortunately, there's a catch-22 there... ...and so too with inability to make yourself do anything. [1] - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06094-5 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06094-5

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jmye 9mo ago

> Well yeah, but you gotta start somewhere Wait, I thought those things solved depression? Why are you hedging now? Did your initial analysis suck, and you're just now realizing it? Are you figuring out that maybe this is slightly more complex than "just be happy" and that maybe you're not the only person on the planet who's ever thought about this?

joe_mamba 9mo ago
Your comment makes no sense. I never said "just be happy". Reformulate it and add more substance so we have something to talk about.
- jmye 8mo ago
  Why do you think I have the responsibility to "add substance" to your non-substantive load of shit? You may not have said the literal words "be happy", but that is precisely what your "medical advice" amounted to. Perhaps it's time to stop having big, strident opinions about things you know you know absolutely nothing about?