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> > And lies. > And truth. In short, propaganda. Propaganda (noun): Propaganda is communication that is primarily used to influence or persuade an audience t
by bayindirh 8mo ago
> > And lies.
> And truth.
In short, propaganda.
Propaganda (noun): Propaganda is communication that is primarily used to influence or persuade an audience to further an agenda, which may not be objective and may be selectively presenting facts to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is being presented. Propaganda can be found in a wide variety of different contexts.[0]
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda
- lostmsu 8mo agoAnd regular people talking their mind
- weregiraffe 8mo agoThis definition is so broad it basically encompasses all communication.
- calgoo 8mo agoI mean, in a way, all communication is propaganda. Its one person or group trying to influence you with their information.
- bayindirh 8mo agoI don't think so. I strive to lay the facts out neutrally so people can decide what to do with that information, even if the outcome is not ideal for me. Preventing non-ideal outcomes is not about lying, but not doing things you might regret in the future. This is why I'm no politician, though.
- squigz 8mo agoHow would you define it?
- ben_w 8mo agoAll communication that is primarily used to influence or persuade an audience to further an agenda, yes. There's also debate and ego-less teaching for the sake of truth-seeking.
- weregiraffe 8mo agoWell, since nobody is ego-less, no truth is universally accepted, and debate is a means to pursue an agenda, what are we left with?
- ben_w 8mo ago> and debate is a means to pursue an agenda Scount mindset: the discovery of the truth to the best of our ability without fear or favour. The metaphor is: A scout who tells the general his troops are strong when they are weak, that the enemy is weak when it is strong, is a bad scout. The opposite is a soldier mindset: a soldier who fears to fight when ordered, no matter the strength of the enemy, isn't a good soldier. You can call the search for truth an agenda in its own right if you wish, but it lacks the "primarily used to influence or persuade" aspect of propaganda.
- weregiraffe 8mo ago>Scount mindset: the discovery of the truth to the best of our ability without fear or favour. That's a mind-slave mindset. Why is the scout working for the general and not for himself?
- ben_w 8mo agoWhy do you see the negative in everything, even metaphors? There's no slavery here. There's not even "slavery" even in actual scouts working for actual generals. And a general needs the same *mindset*, even if they must also engage in performative ho-rah-ing to the troops. A general may need to order their troops to die for the greater good, they may need to lie to the troops to up morale, but if a general lets themselves believe they're strong when they're weak, they're bad at being generals. If they don't listen to their scouts, if they shoot the messenger, they're bad at being generals.
- epiccoleman 8mo agoI've got an Orwell book on my shelf whose title, at least, has the same thesis! https://archive.org/details/AllArtIsPropagandaCriticalEssays/page/n149/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/AllArtIsPropagandaCriticalEssays...
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