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In Germany there are some examples for the suppression of speech. For example popular examples are: (1) getting your house raided for calling a politician a d

In Germany there are some examples for the suppression of speech. For example popular examples are: (1) getting your house raided for calling a politician a dick (2) getting your house raided for calling a politician stupid (3) most recent, just in this week, a retiree gets into trouble with the police for asking worried questions about migration (1) https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/hamburg-wohnungsdurchsuchung-wegen-pimmelgate-war-unrechtmaessig-a-de489269-6589-453f-896f-56e728128cea https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/hamburg-wohnungsdurch... (2) https://www.justiz.bayern.de/media/images/behoerden-und-gerichte/staatsanwaltschaften/bamberg/pm_45-2024-_sta_bamberg_-_wohnungsdurchsuchung_wg_beleidigung_zu_lasten_dr_habeck.pdf https://www.justiz.bayern.de/media/images/behoerden-und-geri... (3) https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article6996cb47fc148b255d14fa1a/saarland-kalifat-scharia-burka-zwangsehe-staatsschutz-ermittelt-wegen-karnevalswagen.html https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article6996cb47fc148... These are examples that spontaneously come to my mind. So I can not talk for whatever country you live in but Germany has a problem about being able to express opinions.

hananova 8mo ago
(1) Is also because it's literally vandalism. (2) Also points out that there were posts of holocaust denial, which has been illegal in most of europe for literal decades. (3) Is an article about an investigation into whether or not the cart was protected by freedom of expression or whether there would be grounds for further trial. Nobody is in trouble yet. Isn't it convenient how all posts that say something that rhymes with "You can get in trouble in EU country X for just doing Y." The "just" is doing a lot of concealed lifting? None of your three links actually support your assertion.
- throwaway140126 8mo ago
  (1) Calling a politician a dick is vandalism? That's nonsense. (2) The corresponding prosecutor made clear that his house was raided for calling the politician stupid and NOT for anything else. You would have known that if you would have read the document I linked to. To quote it: Wegen des Tatverdachts einer gegen Personen des politischen Lebens gerichteten Beleidigung gem. §§ 185, 188, 194 StGB erfolgte am vergangenen Dienstag, 12.11.2024, eine richterlich angeordnete Durchsuchung der Wohnung des Beschuldigten durch Polizeibeamte der Kriminalpolizei Schweinfurt Translated to english: Due to suspicion of an offence of insulting persons in political life pursuant to Sections 185, 188, 194 of the German Criminal Code (StGB), a judicially ordered search of the accused's apartment was carried out last Tuesday, November 12, 2024, by police officers from the Schweinfurt Criminal Investigation Department. (3) He is in trouble in terms that there is an police investigation against him and no it is not okay to have police investigations just because a person expressed his worries about migration. So, yes my links support my assertion.
  - Etherlord87 8mo ago
    (1) - there's a photo of a graffiti in the article. But the translation of the article to English doesn't mention the insult was actually painted on a wall...
    - throwaway140126 8mo ago
      (1) That is just a symbolic image. The person answered „Du bist so 1 Pimmel“ (english: „You're such a dick“) to a post of the politician on twitter. According to Wikipedia it was an answer to the following tweet https://twitter.com/AndyGrote/status/1399001436973899780 https://twitter.com/AndyGrote/status/1399001436973899780
  - selfmodruntime 8mo ago
    People will lie in your face about number two even though both the Amtsgericht Bamberg as well as the press have been saying that the arrest was made in a case of 188 StgB for months now.
  - amarant 8mo ago
    First article, second paragraph states that the search was ruled illegal. The one who got in trouble was ultimately the dick, not the one who called him that....
    - throwaway140126 8mo ago
      Getting your house raided is trouble/punishment... So no the one that called him a dick also got into trouble.. and obviously such events discourage people from expressing their opinions.
- selfmodruntime 8mo ago
  > Also points out that there were posts of holocaust denial, which has been illegal in most of europe for literal decades. The arrest wasn't made for this but for the insulting of a politican. Stop lying. The press has been correcting this case for months.

hananova 8mo ago

(1) Is also because it's literally vandalism. (2) Also points out that there were posts of holocaust denial, which has been illegal in most of europe for literal decades. (3) Is an article about an investigation into whether or not the cart was protected by freedom of expression or whether there would be grounds for further trial. Nobody is in trouble yet. Isn't it convenient how all posts that say something that rhymes with "You can get in trouble in EU country X for just doing Y." The "just" is doing a lot of concealed lifting? None of your three links actually support your assertion.

throwaway140126 8mo ago
(1) Calling a politician a dick is vandalism? That's nonsense. (2) The corresponding prosecutor made clear that his house was raided for calling the politician stupid and NOT for anything else. You would have known that if you would have read the document I linked to. To quote it: Wegen des Tatverdachts einer gegen Personen des politischen Lebens gerichteten Beleidigung gem. §§ 185, 188, 194 StGB erfolgte am vergangenen Dienstag, 12.11.2024, eine richterlich angeordnete Durchsuchung der Wohnung des Beschuldigten durch Polizeibeamte der Kriminalpolizei Schweinfurt Translated to english: Due to suspicion of an offence of insulting persons in political life pursuant to Sections 185, 188, 194 of the German Criminal Code (StGB), a judicially ordered search of the accused's apartment was carried out last Tuesday, November 12, 2024, by police officers from the Schweinfurt Criminal Investigation Department. (3) He is in trouble in terms that there is an police investigation against him and no it is not okay to have police investigations just because a person expressed his worries about migration. So, yes my links support my assertion.
- Etherlord87 8mo ago
  (1) - there's a photo of a graffiti in the article. But the translation of the article to English doesn't mention the insult was actually painted on a wall...
  - throwaway140126 8mo ago
    (1) That is just a symbolic image. The person answered „Du bist so 1 Pimmel“ (english: „You're such a dick“) to a post of the politician on twitter. According to Wikipedia it was an answer to the following tweet https://twitter.com/AndyGrote/status/1399001436973899780 https://twitter.com/AndyGrote/status/1399001436973899780
- selfmodruntime 8mo ago
  People will lie in your face about number two even though both the Amtsgericht Bamberg as well as the press have been saying that the arrest was made in a case of 188 StgB for months now.
- amarant 8mo ago
  First article, second paragraph states that the search was ruled illegal. The one who got in trouble was ultimately the dick, not the one who called him that....
  - throwaway140126 8mo ago
    Getting your house raided is trouble/punishment... So no the one that called him a dick also got into trouble.. and obviously such events discourage people from expressing their opinions.
selfmodruntime 8mo ago
> Also points out that there were posts of holocaust denial, which has been illegal in most of europe for literal decades. The arrest wasn't made for this but for the insulting of a politican. Stop lying. The press has been correcting this case for months.