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The article isn't really arguing that one hit wonders are something new, or that people are entitled to success. It's arguing that there is a new dynamic in pla

The article isn't really arguing that one hit wonders are something new, or that people are entitled to success. It's arguing that there is a new dynamic in play. Due to the fact that she exploded so quickly as a meme from basically obscurity, no one was invested in her as an artist. The argument is that as a result of new media and technology, it's possible for a song to skyrocket without anyone following the artist themselves. If you read on, the author points out the album she put out could be a contender for best pop album of the year, but not enough people care about her as an artist enough to check it out. I find that pretty interesting. It's almost like a new take on the 15 minutes of fame idea, but now your 15 minutes, for whatever you did, make you famous to EVERYONE, but that has no affect on you sticking around in people's minds afterward....

tisme 14y ago
There is no new dynamic in play, this has been happening to just about every one hit wonder since recording was invented. Some stay, most go. The idea here is that follow-through has to be made by everybody, artist, label and so on to take an opportunity like this and to turn it into a marketable brand. I'm reminded of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOu0DuxFAT0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOu0DuxFAT0 Which I'd never heard of before running into it on digg, it's musically mediocre, has a fantastic video but ultimately failed to convince me to go out and buy an album. The internet can't be given credit for the success and it can't be given the blame for subsequent failure, it is just a tool and how you use that tool is up to you. Caring about an artist means to go and visit their concerts, becoming a successful artist means that you're going to have to slog through the 'building a loyal fan base' trough of sorrow somehow and as far as I know outside of throwing huge marketing budgets after fan acquisition (talent optional) there are no short-cuts there. By the way, a similar issue faces websites, you may be able to get that front page on HN with your new offering but that won't make much difference in the long run, you'll still have to have the staying power and the determination to see it through for a long period without being sure if it is going to work out or not. And if you do the chances of it working out go up. Overnight success is not a right, and if you've been handed a free head-start you can't blame your tools if it subsequently does not pan out the way you intended.
- FreeKill 14y ago
  I agree with everything you said, but I don't think the article is blaming the internet for anything or even arguing that it was anyone's fault but the artist (and her management). It's mostly just the author pointing out how remarkable it is that the artist did have such a huge head start and was only able to capitalize on a small fraction of it.
  - janto 14y ago
    If the article is not blaming the internet then "How the Internet Killed Carly Rae Jepsen" is a terrible title.
- sirclueless 14y ago
  Indeed, there are plenty of other bands/stars that have turned their internet fame into lasting success. For example, OK Go is still doing just fine, they found a niche and became really popular.
- angrycoder 14y ago
  > There is no new dynamic in play, this has been happening to just about every one hit wonder since recording was invented. Some stay, most go. The last 4 paragraphs of the article go on to describe exactly what the new dynamic is. In addition to the normal bombardment of hearing the song all the time, it is the additional flood of memes that the internet and social media bring about. As the article says: > In the past, the worst thing that could happen to the Song of the Summer was it being played to death. But in the digital age, the pitfalls are boundless. As “Call Me Maybe” is increasingly meme-ified, it runs the risk of becoming completely mummified. and > Simply put: when you think of “Somebody That I Used to Know,” you’re less likely to think of the man, Wally de Backer, but the meme. Both of you arguing about something that isn't even the main point of the article.
  - tisme 14y ago
    Yes, but it is the flood of memes that allowed this person to get most of the exposure to begin with. The point I'm trying to - unsuccessfully it seems - make is that exposure is not enough. If it were then one hit wonders would not be one hit wonders. You can't ride on a wave and then complain that others are trying to ride that wave too, you especially can't blame the wave.
illuminate 14y ago
"If you read on, the author points out the album she put out could be a contender for best pop album of the year, but not enough people care about her as an artist enough to check it out." So essentially, she has a few fans but did not make a very good pop album, let alone best of the year.
- FreeKill 14y ago
  Well, I guess that depends on "best of the year" definition. In the article, the author is arguing it's best as in quality of the music, not best as in number of units sold... It's obviously just his opinion though...
  - tisme 14y ago
    Given that she's aimed straight at the teenage demographic it looks like all this is is an attempt at doing a female re-run of Justin Bieber. The fact that she signed on with his manager and performs at his concerts, attempts to look 15 when she's 26 and so on give a clear indication of what it is that they're trying to achieve here and I'm frankly not surprised that it didn't work. It doesn't have much to do with her being 'best of the year', and you'd have to discount whatever success she does have in the domestic market by the Canadian laws that give air-time preference to Canadian born artists.
mseebach 14y ago
Well, maybe if MTV hadn't ditched music programming for crappy reality shows, they'd have had a good way of investing in her as an artist if they felt that was warranted.

tisme 14y ago

There is no new dynamic in play, this has been happening to just about every one hit wonder since recording was invented. Some stay, most go. The idea here is that follow-through has to be made by everybody, artist, label and so on to take an opportunity like this and to turn it into a marketable brand. I'm reminded of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOu0DuxFAT0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOu0DuxFAT0 Which I'd never heard of before running into it on digg, it's musically mediocre, has a fantastic video but ultimately failed to convince me to go out and buy an album. The internet can't be given credit for the success and it can't be given the blame for subsequent failure, it is just a tool and how you use that tool is up to you. Caring about an artist means to go and visit their concerts, becoming a successful artist means that you're going to have to slog through the 'building a loyal fan base' trough of sorrow somehow and as far as I know outside of throwing huge marketing budgets after fan acquisition (talent optional) there are no short-cuts there. By the way, a similar issue faces websites, you may be able to get that front page on HN with your new offering but that won't make much difference in the long run, you'll still have to have the staying power and the determination to see it through for a long period without being sure if it is going to work out or not. And if you do the chances of it working out go up. Overnight success is not a right, and if you've been handed a free head-start you can't blame your tools if it subsequently does not pan out the way you intended.

FreeKill 14y ago
I agree with everything you said, but I don't think the article is blaming the internet for anything or even arguing that it was anyone's fault but the artist (and her management). It's mostly just the author pointing out how remarkable it is that the artist did have such a huge head start and was only able to capitalize on a small fraction of it.
- janto 14y ago
  If the article is not blaming the internet then "How the Internet Killed Carly Rae Jepsen" is a terrible title.
sirclueless 14y ago
Indeed, there are plenty of other bands/stars that have turned their internet fame into lasting success. For example, OK Go is still doing just fine, they found a niche and became really popular.
angrycoder 14y ago
> There is no new dynamic in play, this has been happening to just about every one hit wonder since recording was invented. Some stay, most go. The last 4 paragraphs of the article go on to describe exactly what the new dynamic is. In addition to the normal bombardment of hearing the song all the time, it is the additional flood of memes that the internet and social media bring about. As the article says: > In the past, the worst thing that could happen to the Song of the Summer was it being played to death. But in the digital age, the pitfalls are boundless. As “Call Me Maybe” is increasingly meme-ified, it runs the risk of becoming completely mummified. and > Simply put: when you think of “Somebody That I Used to Know,” you’re less likely to think of the man, Wally de Backer, but the meme. Both of you arguing about something that isn't even the main point of the article.
- tisme 14y ago
  Yes, but it is the flood of memes that allowed this person to get most of the exposure to begin with. The point I'm trying to - unsuccessfully it seems - make is that exposure is not enough. If it were then one hit wonders would not be one hit wonders. You can't ride on a wave and then complain that others are trying to ride that wave too, you especially can't blame the wave.

illuminate 14y ago

"If you read on, the author points out the album she put out could be a contender for best pop album of the year, but not enough people care about her as an artist enough to check it out." So essentially, she has a few fans but did not make a very good pop album, let alone best of the year.

FreeKill 14y ago
Well, I guess that depends on "best of the year" definition. In the article, the author is arguing it's best as in quality of the music, not best as in number of units sold... It's obviously just his opinion though...
- tisme 14y ago
  Given that she's aimed straight at the teenage demographic it looks like all this is is an attempt at doing a female re-run of Justin Bieber. The fact that she signed on with his manager and performs at his concerts, attempts to look 15 when she's 26 and so on give a clear indication of what it is that they're trying to achieve here and I'm frankly not surprised that it didn't work. It doesn't have much to do with her being 'best of the year', and you'd have to discount whatever success she does have in the domestic market by the Canadian laws that give air-time preference to Canadian born artists.

mseebach 14y ago

Well, maybe if MTV hadn't ditched music programming for crappy reality shows, they'd have had a good way of investing in her as an artist if they felt that was warranted.