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> If gun owners want to kill themselves it's not my job to keep them safe. Not so fun fact, the person most likely to be killed by a gun in your home is you.

> If gun owners want to kill themselves it's not my job to keep them safe. Not so fun fact, the person most likely to be killed by a gun in your home is you. Some places deal with that reality head on, and it has an outcome that a lot of people are okay with.

15155 8mo ago
> Not so fun fact, the person most likely to be killed by a gun in your home is you. No shit: people commit suicide (which your "statistic" you lifted from Everytown, Giffords, or VPC - anti-gun lobbies includes.) Suicidal people aren't a valid reason for my rights to be restricted, sorry.
- mullingitover 8mo ago
  > Suicidal people aren't a valid reason for my rights to be restricted, sorry. You also have a right to travel around the country, but that doesn't mean you're allowed to drink and drive. There are plenty of valid, constitutional reasons for firearm ownership to be restricted to qualified individuals. When these restrictions are in place, many fewer people die. It is what it is.
  - 15155 8mo ago
    Can you show me where the right to drive a car is Constitutionally-protected? Also, what a shitty analogy: suicide is by definition a self-harmful act, DUI is almost always a socially-harmful act on its own. (And in many states, you can DUI on private property, by the way.)
    - mullingitover 8mo ago
      > Also, what a shitty analogy: suicide is by definition a self-harmful act, DUI is almost always a socially-harmful act on its own. "59% of people who died in crashes involving alcohol-impaired drivers in 2022 were the alcohol-impaired drivers themselves"[1] Also, people who commit suicide with their firearms typically have families who suffer. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/impaired-driving/facts/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/impaired-driving/facts/index.html
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      - tracker1 8mo ago
        So are you advocating to outlaw alcohol? I mean, since people get depressed and drink which drives more depression and kill themselves... I guess you're suggesting that all depressants should be outlawed.
  - tracker1 8mo ago
    According to the first militia act, every able bodied male over 18 is what defines a qualified individual. Beyond that, you're actually required to own a firearm in that case.
tracker1 8mo ago
Well, Canada is trying to keep guns away from you but is also perfectly willing to help you kill yourself.

15155 8mo ago

> Not so fun fact, the person most likely to be killed by a gun in your home is you. No shit: people commit suicide (which your "statistic" you lifted from Everytown, Giffords, or VPC - anti-gun lobbies includes.) Suicidal people aren't a valid reason for my rights to be restricted, sorry.

mullingitover 8mo ago
> Suicidal people aren't a valid reason for my rights to be restricted, sorry. You also have a right to travel around the country, but that doesn't mean you're allowed to drink and drive. There are plenty of valid, constitutional reasons for firearm ownership to be restricted to qualified individuals. When these restrictions are in place, many fewer people die. It is what it is.
- 15155 8mo ago
  Can you show me where the right to drive a car is Constitutionally-protected? Also, what a shitty analogy: suicide is by definition a self-harmful act, DUI is almost always a socially-harmful act on its own. (And in many states, you can DUI on private property, by the way.)
  - mullingitover 8mo ago
    > Also, what a shitty analogy: suicide is by definition a self-harmful act, DUI is almost always a socially-harmful act on its own. "59% of people who died in crashes involving alcohol-impaired drivers in 2022 were the alcohol-impaired drivers themselves"[1] Also, people who commit suicide with their firearms typically have families who suffer. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/impaired-driving/facts/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/impaired-driving/facts/index.html
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    - tracker1 8mo ago
      So are you advocating to outlaw alcohol? I mean, since people get depressed and drink which drives more depression and kill themselves... I guess you're suggesting that all depressants should be outlawed.
- tracker1 8mo ago
  According to the first militia act, every able bodied male over 18 is what defines a qualified individual. Beyond that, you're actually required to own a firearm in that case.

tracker1 8mo ago

Well, Canada is trying to keep guns away from you but is also perfectly willing to help you kill yourself.