I would imagine the audience of HN to care more about larger concerns more so than the general population, but I don't know how much higher those numbers would

I would imagine the audience of HN to care more about larger concerns more so than the general population, but I don't know how much higher those numbers would be. I don't buy Apple products for the very reasons you cite, but there is considerable passionate support and occasional vitriolic ass-hattery for them here on HN.