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Can you elaborate? The wiki says NCLB is "outcomes based education" which is further defined as "By the end of the educational experience, each student should h

Can you elaborate? The wiki says NCLB is "outcomes based education" which is further defined as "By the end of the educational experience, each student should have achieved the goal." You seem to be suggesting it's the opposite though?

sidewndr46 8mo ago
If you redefine the goal to be "complete the educational system in a normal manner" and then pass everyone each year you have implemented outcomes based education. The outcome is that everyone is that each individual completes an education. What good it is remains to be seen.
- CGMthrowaway 8mo ago
  So the idea behind NCLB is to lower the standards until everyone passes?
  - smileysteve 8mo ago
    It's metric chasing; If the metric is everyone passes, then you either taught really well or lowered the standard.
    - sidewndr46 8mo ago
      There is more than 2 ways to get to the required goal, but your analogy generally holds.
rawgabbit 8mo ago
Anecdotally teachers complained they were forced into a straight jacket. “To teach to the test.” In many troubled schools, the problems run deep. Absent parents, crime, drugs, abuse etc. Many teachers felt they better served children if they could teach in a manner of their choosing. https://nrcgt.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/953/2015/04/rm07228.pdf https://nrcgt.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/953/2015/04... Page 95. “The limitations that resulted from the curricular requirements also affected the use of classroom resources. In some cases, there appeared to be particular books, teaching models, and other resources that were mandated in the curriculum. An observation following a teacher interview illuminates the inability of teachers to include non- prescribed resources: "She wanted to be able to use more chapter/trade books and it was not possible because of all of the excerpts and mandates of basal instruction" (IA, WSRSD, ES, Carey, FN, #8, p. 2). The teachers seemed to want greater curricular control. While they indicated that they did have control over their instructional methods, they appeared to be inhibited by the lack of authority and decision-making power with regard to the curriculum.”

sidewndr46 8mo ago

If you redefine the goal to be "complete the educational system in a normal manner" and then pass everyone each year you have implemented outcomes based education. The outcome is that everyone is that each individual completes an education. What good it is remains to be seen.

CGMthrowaway 8mo ago
So the idea behind NCLB is to lower the standards until everyone passes?
- smileysteve 8mo ago
  It's metric chasing; If the metric is everyone passes, then you either taught really well or lowered the standard.
  - sidewndr46 8mo ago
    There is more than 2 ways to get to the required goal, but your analogy generally holds.

rawgabbit 8mo ago

Anecdotally teachers complained they were forced into a straight jacket. “To teach to the test.” In many troubled schools, the problems run deep. Absent parents, crime, drugs, abuse etc. Many teachers felt they better served children if they could teach in a manner of their choosing. https://nrcgt.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/953/2015/04/rm07228.pdf https://nrcgt.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/953/2015/04... Page 95. “The limitations that resulted from the curricular requirements also affected the use of classroom resources. In some cases, there appeared to be particular books, teaching models, and other resources that were mandated in the curriculum. An observation following a teacher interview illuminates the inability of teachers to include non- prescribed resources: "She wanted to be able to use more chapter/trade books and it was not possible because of all of the excerpts and mandates of basal instruction" (IA, WSRSD, ES, Carey, FN, #8, p. 2). The teachers seemed to want greater curricular control. While they indicated that they did have control over their instructional methods, they appeared to be inhibited by the lack of authority and decision-making power with regard to the curriculum.”