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I suggest anyone who hasn’t reads Careless People. Everyone I passed my copy around to has left Facebook almost instantly. Zuck is just one of the worst humans

by dgxyz 8mo ago

I suggest anyone who hasn’t reads Careless People. Everyone I passed my copy around to has left Facebook almost instantly. Zuck is just one of the worst humans on the planet.

shrubby 8mo ago
I suggest we crowdfund a campaign to gift each employee this. It was a good read though nothing too surprising after following this saga from the McNamee Zucked to the Wylie /. Cambridge Analytica case. Wylies Mindfuck is another great one.
- onetokeoverthe 8mo ago
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- rsynnott 8mo ago
  Yeah, I think fo anyone who’d been keeping an eye on Facebook there was very little new there. I don’t remember any major revelations, but having it all presented in one shot is… well, it’s a thing.
- dgxyz 8mo ago
  Wasted effort. I worked in an adjacent area. There’s a large supply of people without an ounce of morality who don’t give a shit if they are paid up. Anyone who cares or couldn’t be bought left already. I have a list of no hire/tainted companies now and they are on the list.
arethuza 8mo ago
Careless People is very good. However, I'm currently reading "Character Limit" about the acquisition of Twitter by Musk which I think is even more interesting. Does anyone have any recommendations for more books like these?
- dgxyz 8mo ago
  Will buy that today. Thanks for the recommendation.
- didsomeonesay 8mo ago
  maybe take a look at "Bad Blood" by John Carreyrou
  - arethuza 8mo ago
    Yes - already read that, it's also very good! Edit: Maybe I should find one about the shenanigans in the crypto space...
- ioadk 8mo ago
  I love these kind of books, some recommendations: Tech-specific (more like Careless People): - Empire of AI: tells the story of how the massive AI labs started and became as big as they are with a focus on OpenAI, provides new insight into the coup that outed Altman a couple years ago - Number Go Up: digs into the crypto culture and scams with novel insight into Tether - Bad Blood: a classic about Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes and how far a technologically impossible startup can go - Super Pumped: about Uber and the dirty tactics they employed to stay ahead, also touches on the toxic culture that was propagated there - Money Men: about the criminal enterprise around Wirecard, hard to keep up with at times due to the focus on the FT investigation rather than the fraud but interesting anyway Finance-focused: - Barbarians at the Gate: a classic about the attempted takeover of RJR Nabisco (oreos and tobacco) by management and early PE firms, told from first hand accounts - Too Big Too Fail: similar in form to Barbarians but instead focused on the 08 collapse and the attempts by the government to save all the irresponsible banks, told in too much of a sympathetic way for me but interesting to see how things happened behind the scenes - All the Devils Are Here: on the other hand a very unsympathetic look into the 08 crisis, by the same authors as Smartest Guys in the Room Other: - The Smartest Guys in the Room: my favourite of them all, tells the story of Enron and their rise and incredible fall, basically a foundational text on how to do a financial crime (and not get away with it) - Chip War: very relevant look into the production of computer chips, highlights the reliance on only a few companies and the incredible costs involved - Empire of Pain: also a favourite, goes into the Sackler family and how they built Perdue Pharma and then proceeded to cause the devastating opioid epidemic - The Power Broker: a classic about Robert Moses who basically built half of New York at the expense of marginalised residents, it's very long so I'd recommend reading/listening along with the 99% invisible breakdown I've not read Character Limit so have added that to my "To Read" pile!

by dgxyz 8mo ago

I suggest anyone who hasn’t reads Careless People. Everyone I passed my copy around to has left Facebook almost instantly. Zuck is just one of the worst humans on the planet.

shrubby 8mo ago

I suggest we crowdfund a campaign to gift each employee this. It was a good read though nothing too surprising after following this saga from the McNamee Zucked to the Wylie /. Cambridge Analytica case. Wylies Mindfuck is another great one.

onetokeoverthe 8mo ago
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rsynnott 8mo ago
Yeah, I think fo anyone who’d been keeping an eye on Facebook there was very little new there. I don’t remember any major revelations, but having it all presented in one shot is… well, it’s a thing.
dgxyz 8mo ago
Wasted effort. I worked in an adjacent area. There’s a large supply of people without an ounce of morality who don’t give a shit if they are paid up. Anyone who cares or couldn’t be bought left already. I have a list of no hire/tainted companies now and they are on the list.

arethuza 8mo ago

Careless People is very good. However, I'm currently reading "Character Limit" about the acquisition of Twitter by Musk which I think is even more interesting. Does anyone have any recommendations for more books like these?

dgxyz 8mo ago
Will buy that today. Thanks for the recommendation.
didsomeonesay 8mo ago
maybe take a look at "Bad Blood" by John Carreyrou
- arethuza 8mo ago
  Yes - already read that, it's also very good! Edit: Maybe I should find one about the shenanigans in the crypto space...
ioadk 8mo ago
I love these kind of books, some recommendations: Tech-specific (more like Careless People): - Empire of AI: tells the story of how the massive AI labs started and became as big as they are with a focus on OpenAI, provides new insight into the coup that outed Altman a couple years ago - Number Go Up: digs into the crypto culture and scams with novel insight into Tether - Bad Blood: a classic about Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes and how far a technologically impossible startup can go - Super Pumped: about Uber and the dirty tactics they employed to stay ahead, also touches on the toxic culture that was propagated there - Money Men: about the criminal enterprise around Wirecard, hard to keep up with at times due to the focus on the FT investigation rather than the fraud but interesting anyway Finance-focused: - Barbarians at the Gate: a classic about the attempted takeover of RJR Nabisco (oreos and tobacco) by management and early PE firms, told from first hand accounts - Too Big Too Fail: similar in form to Barbarians but instead focused on the 08 collapse and the attempts by the government to save all the irresponsible banks, told in too much of a sympathetic way for me but interesting to see how things happened behind the scenes - All the Devils Are Here: on the other hand a very unsympathetic look into the 08 crisis, by the same authors as Smartest Guys in the Room Other: - The Smartest Guys in the Room: my favourite of them all, tells the story of Enron and their rise and incredible fall, basically a foundational text on how to do a financial crime (and not get away with it) - Chip War: very relevant look into the production of computer chips, highlights the reliance on only a few companies and the incredible costs involved - Empire of Pain: also a favourite, goes into the Sackler family and how they built Perdue Pharma and then proceeded to cause the devastating opioid epidemic - The Power Broker: a classic about Robert Moses who basically built half of New York at the expense of marginalised residents, it's very long so I'd recommend reading/listening along with the 99% invisible breakdown I've not read Character Limit so have added that to my "To Read" pile!