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This is all well and good but Elixir with Phoenix and Liveview is super bloated and you have to have a real reason to buy into such a monster that you couldn't

by fud101 8mo ago

This is all well and good but Elixir with Phoenix and Liveview is super bloated and you have to have a real reason to buy into such a monster that you couldn't do with a simpler stack.

ipnon 8mo ago
Interesting take. I’m an Elixir fanboy because I find LiveView to be very slim. You’re just sending state diffs over WebSocket and updating the DOM with MorphDOM. The simplicity is incomparable to state of the art with JavaScript frameworks in my humble opinion.
- btreecat 8mo ago
  That seems more complicated than jQuery
- fud101 8mo ago
  I'd use something like a lightweight python framework (take your pick) and pair it with htmx. You can run that on low powered hardware or a cheap VPS. I can't even dev elixir on my N100 minipc, it's too demanding. Otherwise Python and SolidJS or Preact will work perfectly for a SPA.
  - asa400 8mo ago
    > I can't even dev elixir on my N100 minipc, it's too demanding. Isn't the N100 a quad core machine? It can't run Elixir?
    - fud101 8mo ago
      It can but it feels very sluggish developing in my ide of choice (vscode). I also miss having a debugger which is nonnegotiable for me.
monooso 8mo ago
I'm not sure I agree with the "bloated" description, but I will say that I really like Elixir, and really dislike LiveView. Which is a shame, because the latter is pretty inescapable in Elixir world these days.