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So who exactly is StepFun? What is their business (how do they make money)? Each time I click “About Stepfun” somewhere on their website, it sends me to a gener

So who exactly is StepFun? What is their business (how do they make money)? Each time I click “About Stepfun” somewhere on their website, it sends me to a generic landing page in a loop.

deaux 9mo ago
Might want to give it a search.
0x1997 9mo ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StepFun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StepFun
- SilverElfin 9mo ago
  Thanks. Do they sell any of these products today or is it more like research? I am not able to find anything relating to pricing on their website. Just a chatbot.
  - 0x1997 9mo ago
    Princing can be found on their docs website https://platform.stepfun.ai/docs/en/pricing/details https://platform.stepfun.ai/docs/en/pricing/details
kristopolous 9mo ago
They've been around a couple years. This is the first model that has really broken into the anglosphere. Keep a tab on aihubmix, the Chinese openrouter, if you want to stay on top of the latest models. They keep track of things like the Baichuan, Doubao, baai (beijing academy), Meituan, 01.AI (yi), xiaomi, etc... Much larger chinese coverage than openrouter
- Havoc 9mo ago
  >first model that has really broken into the anglosphere. Do you know of a couple of interesting ones that haven't yet?
  - kristopolous 9mo ago
    doubao (bytedance) seed models are interesting Keep your eye on Baidu's Ernie https://ernie.baidu.com/ https://ernie.baidu.com/ Artificial analysis is generally on top of everything https://artificialanalysis.ai/leaderboards/models https://artificialanalysis.ai/leaderboards/models Those two are really the new players Nanbeige which they haven't benchmarked just put out a shockingly good 3b model https://huggingface.co/Nanbeige https://huggingface.co/Nanbeige - specifically https://huggingface.co/Nanbeige/Nanbeige4.1-3B https://huggingface.co/Nanbeige/Nanbeige4.1-3B You have to tweak the hyper parameter like they say but I'm getting quality output, commensurate with maybe a 32b model, in exchange for a huge thinking lag It's the new LFM 2.5
    - admiralrohan 9mo ago
      Never heard of Nanbeige, thanks for sharing. "Good" is subjective though, in which tasks can I use it and where to avoid?
      - kristopolous 9mo ago
        it's a 3b model. Fire it up. If you have ollama just do this: ollama create nanbeige-custom -f <(curl https://day50.dev/Nanbeige4.1-params.Modelfile) That has the hyperparameters already in there. Then you can try it out It's taking up like 2.5GB of ram. my test query is always "compare rust and go with code samples". I'm telling you, the thinking token count is ... high... Here's what I got https://day50.dev/rust_v_go.md https://day50.dev/rust_v_go.md I just tried it on a 4gb raspberry pi and a 2012 era x230 with an i5-3210. Worked. It'll take about 45 minutes on the pi which you know, isn't OOM...so there's that....
    - Havoc 9mo ago
      Thanks!
- tarruda 9mo ago
  > This is the first model that has really broken into the anglosphere. Before Step 3.5 Flash, I've been hearing a lot about ACEStep as being the only open weights competitor to Suno.
tarruda 9mo ago
They seem to be the same company that released ACEStep music generation model: https://acestep.io/ https://acestep.io/ Though the only mention I found was in ComfyUI docs: https://docs.comfy.org/tutorials/audio/ace-step/ace-step-v1 https://docs.comfy.org/tutorials/audio/ace-step/ace-step-v1

So who exactly is StepFun? What is their business (how do they make money)? Each time I click “About Stepfun” somewhere on their website, it sends me to a generic landing page in a loop.

deaux 9mo ago

Might want to give it a search.

0x1997 9mo ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StepFun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StepFun

SilverElfin 9mo ago
Thanks. Do they sell any of these products today or is it more like research? I am not able to find anything relating to pricing on their website. Just a chatbot.
- 0x1997 9mo ago
  Princing can be found on their docs website https://platform.stepfun.ai/docs/en/pricing/details https://platform.stepfun.ai/docs/en/pricing/details

kristopolous 9mo ago

They've been around a couple years. This is the first model that has really broken into the anglosphere. Keep a tab on aihubmix, the Chinese openrouter, if you want to stay on top of the latest models. They keep track of things like the Baichuan, Doubao, baai (beijing academy), Meituan, 01.AI (yi), xiaomi, etc... Much larger chinese coverage than openrouter

Havoc 9mo ago
>first model that has really broken into the anglosphere. Do you know of a couple of interesting ones that haven't yet?
- kristopolous 9mo ago
  doubao (bytedance) seed models are interesting Keep your eye on Baidu's Ernie https://ernie.baidu.com/ https://ernie.baidu.com/ Artificial analysis is generally on top of everything https://artificialanalysis.ai/leaderboards/models https://artificialanalysis.ai/leaderboards/models Those two are really the new players Nanbeige which they haven't benchmarked just put out a shockingly good 3b model https://huggingface.co/Nanbeige https://huggingface.co/Nanbeige - specifically https://huggingface.co/Nanbeige/Nanbeige4.1-3B https://huggingface.co/Nanbeige/Nanbeige4.1-3B You have to tweak the hyper parameter like they say but I'm getting quality output, commensurate with maybe a 32b model, in exchange for a huge thinking lag It's the new LFM 2.5
  - admiralrohan 9mo ago
    Never heard of Nanbeige, thanks for sharing. "Good" is subjective though, in which tasks can I use it and where to avoid?
    - kristopolous 9mo ago
      it's a 3b model. Fire it up. If you have ollama just do this: ollama create nanbeige-custom -f <(curl https://day50.dev/Nanbeige4.1-params.Modelfile) That has the hyperparameters already in there. Then you can try it out It's taking up like 2.5GB of ram. my test query is always "compare rust and go with code samples". I'm telling you, the thinking token count is ... high... Here's what I got https://day50.dev/rust_v_go.md https://day50.dev/rust_v_go.md I just tried it on a 4gb raspberry pi and a 2012 era x230 with an i5-3210. Worked. It'll take about 45 minutes on the pi which you know, isn't OOM...so there's that....
  - Havoc 9mo ago
    Thanks!
tarruda 9mo ago
> This is the first model that has really broken into the anglosphere. Before Step 3.5 Flash, I've been hearing a lot about ACEStep as being the only open weights competitor to Suno.

tarruda 9mo ago

They seem to be the same company that released ACEStep music generation model: https://acestep.io/ https://acestep.io/ Though the only mention I found was in ComfyUI docs: https://docs.comfy.org/tutorials/audio/ace-step/ace-step-v1 https://docs.comfy.org/tutorials/audio/ace-step/ace-step-v1