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Why? Seriously, why do we care so much about this? Do we not have better uses of our money. Also the irony considering recent moves by the US government in t

Why? Seriously, why do we care so much about this? Do we not have better uses of our money. Also the irony considering recent moves by the US government in terms of control of the internet and free speech.

carlosjobim 8mo ago
These things have been going on forever. Since WWII and until right now, there has been radio stations broadcasting into enemy territory, to bypass censorship.
throw-the-towel 8mo ago
Ironically, this effectively is a pro-Trump comment because it's the Trump administration that defunded US propaganda outlets.
- idiotsecant 8mo ago
  No, the Trump administration is an enormous supporter of propaganda outlets, just not the ones that already existed. They don't care about maintaining the rules based world order. Their propaganda is much more inward-focused.
  - throw-the-towel 8mo ago
    You're probably right, I was speaking as someone from outside the States, and hence more familiar with the outside-focused US outlets.
ericmay 8mo ago
> Also the irony considering recent moves by the US government in terms of control of the internet and free speech. Well you've got plenty of countries doing it, including France, Iran, the United Kingdom, Germany, China, Brasil, Australia, you name it. Not that it's good, but a criticism for the goose is a criticism for the gander, as a manner of speaking. As to which, why or why do we care so much about this? Idk, same reason our government funds tens of thousands of initiatives and cares about lots of different things that people find equally important or unimportant.
idiotsecant 8mo ago
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mrighele 8mo ago
Historically the US did care a lot, in a way it reminds me of the Crusade for Freedom [1] and Radio Free Europe [2]. So I find this in line with the behavior of many American administration, the weird thing being that this time the target is not the just usual suspects (China, Iran, etc.) but also European allies. (not saying this is a good thing btw, just trying to put it in perspective) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade_for_Freedom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade_for_Freedom [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Liberty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Libert...

carlosjobim 8mo ago

These things have been going on forever. Since WWII and until right now, there has been radio stations broadcasting into enemy territory, to bypass censorship.

throw-the-towel 8mo ago

Ironically, this effectively is a pro-Trump comment because it's the Trump administration that defunded US propaganda outlets.

idiotsecant 8mo ago
No, the Trump administration is an enormous supporter of propaganda outlets, just not the ones that already existed. They don't care about maintaining the rules based world order. Their propaganda is much more inward-focused.
- throw-the-towel 8mo ago
  You're probably right, I was speaking as someone from outside the States, and hence more familiar with the outside-focused US outlets.

ericmay 8mo ago

> Also the irony considering recent moves by the US government in terms of control of the internet and free speech. Well you've got plenty of countries doing it, including France, Iran, the United Kingdom, Germany, China, Brasil, Australia, you name it. Not that it's good, but a criticism for the goose is a criticism for the gander, as a manner of speaking. As to which, why or why do we care so much about this? Idk, same reason our government funds tens of thousands of initiatives and cares about lots of different things that people find equally important or unimportant.

idiotsecant 8mo ago

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mrighele 8mo ago

Historically the US did care a lot, in a way it reminds me of the Crusade for Freedom [1] and Radio Free Europe [2]. So I find this in line with the behavior of many American administration, the weird thing being that this time the target is not the just usual suspects (China, Iran, etc.) but also European allies. (not saying this is a good thing btw, just trying to put it in perspective) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade_for_Freedom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade_for_Freedom [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Liberty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Libert...