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When "prestige" and proxies substitute for quality is when I do no longer want to be part of that industry. Accounting and consultants are good examples. They

When "prestige" and proxies substitute for quality is when I do no longer want to be part of that industry. Accounting and consultants are good examples. They aren't higher quality, esp compared to cost. They just have better PR, marketing, and thus provide an out when the shit hits the fan. "Hey, I picked the topped ranked firm, can't blame me for them fucking up."

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rayiner 14y ago
> When "prestige" and proxies substitute for quality is when I do no longer want to be part of that industry. I think using proxies for quality are better than what we have in software right now, which is no focus on quality and working with the assumption that software will be late, buggy, etc. Also, I don't see the point in being ideological about it. Google and Facebook exist by selling peoples' privacy in ways that people don't really understand. Does that keep people from working in Silicon Valley?
- edanm 14y ago
  Agree completely with your first sentence, well said and thanks for saying it. Disagree with the second statement - I may be wrong, but I think at least a lot of Google's revenue comes from placing ads in search. No selling of privacy, or at least done in a way that people completely understand.
  - rayiner 14y ago
    A lot of Google's revenues come from selling targeted ads in response to searches. Your private information--from GMail, your other Google searches, etc, all goes into those targeted ads. And of course, advertising is dependant on companies wanting to create proxies for prestige and quality. It's called branding.
- njharman 14y ago
  > no focus on quality and working with the assumption that software will be late, buggy, etc. That does not describe me, software engineers I know, most places I've worked (any in last 12years), nor the industry I work in. People claiming that is how the software industry is are usually trying to sell you a service, tool, or ideology.

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rayiner 14y ago

> When "prestige" and proxies substitute for quality is when I do no longer want to be part of that industry. I think using proxies for quality are better than what we have in software right now, which is no focus on quality and working with the assumption that software will be late, buggy, etc. Also, I don't see the point in being ideological about it. Google and Facebook exist by selling peoples' privacy in ways that people don't really understand. Does that keep people from working in Silicon Valley?

edanm 14y ago
Agree completely with your first sentence, well said and thanks for saying it. Disagree with the second statement - I may be wrong, but I think at least a lot of Google's revenue comes from placing ads in search. No selling of privacy, or at least done in a way that people completely understand.
- rayiner 14y ago
  A lot of Google's revenues come from selling targeted ads in response to searches. Your private information--from GMail, your other Google searches, etc, all goes into those targeted ads. And of course, advertising is dependant on companies wanting to create proxies for prestige and quality. It's called branding.
njharman 14y ago
> no focus on quality and working with the assumption that software will be late, buggy, etc. That does not describe me, software engineers I know, most places I've worked (any in last 12years), nor the industry I work in. People claiming that is how the software industry is are usually trying to sell you a service, tool, or ideology.