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It's right wing censorship plain and simple. Unfashionable to state this.
by giraffe_lady 8mo ago
It's right wing censorship plain and simple. Unfashionable to state this.
- iamnothere 8mo agoWhile this particular bill is all R sponsors, current censorship efforts are bipartisan inside the US and even international in scope. The one ray of hope is that left and right can’t agree on what should be censored or how, or even what constitutes “censorship.”
- rootusrootus 8mo agoIMO when both-sides-ing a debate, it would be helpful to provide more specific examples to support the claim. Especially when your first few words acknowledge the apparent one-sided nature.
- uncletscollie 8mo ago[dead]
- chneu 8mo agoJust look at the Senate votes for these bills/laws.
- iamnothere 8mo agoIf you need examples for left wing censorship in the US: the federal government (primarily through CISA) worked for years through NGOs to pressure companies on moderation policy, going so far as to suggest particular accounts or individuals needed scrutiny. California is currently suing several website operators for offering blueprints for 3D printed guns. A few blue states are experimenting with hate speech bills again (typically focused on islamophobia or antisemitism), although they will likely face a successful 1A challenge if they pass. Both Ds and Rs have been attacking Section 230; Mark Kelly wants to strip those protections when sites “amplify content that caused harm.” KOSA is a looming bipartisan threat. Left radicals are as virulently against free speech as those on the right, often calling for allies to “shut down” or even physically harm opponents. Schools are a particularly difficult battleground for free speech, with actions against scholars from both left and right: https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/scholars-under-fire https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/scholars-under-fire If you are left wing, you probably don’t think some of these are censorship, others do, that’s why I said it was a good thing that left and right disagree with each other here. In many ways they cancel each other out, although they do a lot of damage to free speech along the way. It’s also true that currently in the US the primary threat comes from the right, as a consequence of the right being in power. Internationally it is reversed.
- b65e8bee43c2ed0 8mo agowhich 'wing' cheered loudly when every platform openly suppressed their political opponents during the last decade, and frothed in impotent rage when one of those platforms unexpectedly changed hands and ceased the censorship? somehow, censorship is only bad when the wrong side does it. when the correct side does it, it's justified and necessary for your democracies to survive.
- mcpar-land 8mo agoI don't know. Which wing, and what's an example of the suppression they did openly?
- rootusrootus 8mo agoI sometimes wonder how serious these sorts of sentiments are. Like, when you claim something easily disproven and openly partisan, do you know that and do it anyway, or is your internal dialog one of righteous outrage?
- b65e8bee43c2ed0 8mo agofor example, go ahead and easily disprove that Twitter, Google, and Facebook had banned the sitting president of the United States in January 2021, simultaneously and voluntarily.
- uncletscollie 8mo ago[dead]
- rootusrootus 8mo agoSo a couple platforms banning one guy from continuing to attempt an insurrection of the federal government counts as suppressing your political opponents? Would you assert that politicians are by definition untouchable, no matter what they do? Literally. I know your man bragged about this, but was he joking or not?
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- raw_anon_1111 8mo agoYou weren’t around when Tipper Gore was raising the alarm about Ice T’s “Cop Killer” (now “ICE Killer” since he has been playing a cop on TV for a quarter century) or NWA and “F%%% the Police”
- zerotolerance 8mo agoYes. Right wing.
- mghackerlady 8mo agoGore is at best a centrist
- dogleash 8mo agoAnd not born in Edinburgh, either.
- uncletscollie 8mo ago[dead]
- giraffe_lady 8mo agoI caught the tail end of the civil rights movement and I've never been fussed about white folks whining about black music. It's just what they do.
- raw_anon_1111 8mo agoI am 51 and my still living parents grew up in the Jim Crow South and they witnessed the “Albany Movement” (my home town) first hand. But to be fair, it’s also generational thing. My parents were just as put off by the rap music of the day.
- themafia 8mo agoThis isn't about ideology. This is about money and control.