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Looks like the ramifications of elite overproduction are starting to actually manifest everywhere! > And while the polarizing nature of social media can perpet

Looks like the ramifications of elite overproduction are starting to actually manifest everywhere! > And while the polarizing nature of social media can perpetuate a sense of crisis and despair, these platforms are too disjointed for a unifying figure to emerge and seize power.[50] Turchin predicted that the resolution to this crisis will occur in the 2030s and will substantially change the character of the United States.[34] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_overproduction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_overproduction

cucumber3732842 8mo ago
Alternatively, you have the uncle Ted explanation: We have subjugated ourselves and destroyed our autonomy and capability for individual action and fulfillment with institutions and technology. People cope for awhile until eventually it all destabilizes and goes to shit. It's also been about ~50yr since he penned the prediction that it would come to a head in 40-100yr. And these are far from the only two theories with some very compelling arguments and lines of reasoning backing them up.
- RunningDroid 8mo ago
  Uncle Ted being Ted Kaczynski, for the unaware: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_Future https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_Fut...
  - burnt-resistor 8mo ago
    Correct diagnosis, wrong prescription.. shared by communism and terrorism.
    - cucumber3732842 8mo ago
      In a world full of state violence would we even have read Ted's work, would we even know the terrorists's gripes if not for their respective pinpricks of violence? Yeah, violence is wrong, but were they wrong to choose it, I'm not so sure.
  - LargoLasskhyfv 8mo ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Ellul https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Ellul
eli_gottlieb 8mo ago
What's the difference in predictions made between a theory of elite overproduction vs one of proletarianization?
- AndrewKemendo 8mo ago
  Different systems and elite overproduction doesn’t discuss capital and production allocation eg means of production split.

cucumber3732842 8mo ago

Alternatively, you have the uncle Ted explanation: We have subjugated ourselves and destroyed our autonomy and capability for individual action and fulfillment with institutions and technology. People cope for awhile until eventually it all destabilizes and goes to shit. It's also been about ~50yr since he penned the prediction that it would come to a head in 40-100yr. And these are far from the only two theories with some very compelling arguments and lines of reasoning backing them up.

RunningDroid 8mo ago
Uncle Ted being Ted Kaczynski, for the unaware: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_Future https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_Fut...
- burnt-resistor 8mo ago
  Correct diagnosis, wrong prescription.. shared by communism and terrorism.
  - cucumber3732842 8mo ago
    In a world full of state violence would we even have read Ted's work, would we even know the terrorists's gripes if not for their respective pinpricks of violence? Yeah, violence is wrong, but were they wrong to choose it, I'm not so sure.
- LargoLasskhyfv 8mo ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Ellul https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Ellul

eli_gottlieb 8mo ago

What's the difference in predictions made between a theory of elite overproduction vs one of proletarianization?

AndrewKemendo 8mo ago
Different systems and elite overproduction doesn’t discuss capital and production allocation eg means of production split.