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Pixel 10a

38 points by meetpateltech 8mo ago

evanjrowley 8mo ago
I appreciate the Google store making it relatively easy to compare the specs between current phones and end-of-sale phones. Here’s a comparison between the Pixel 10a and the Pixel 7: https://store.google.com/us/magazine/compare_pixel?hl=en-US&toggler0=Pixel+10a&toggler1=Pixel+7&toggler2=Pixel+10 https://store.google.com/us/magazine/compare_pixel?hl=en-US&... The one thing that wasn’t clear from the comparison was if USB display output is supported on the Pixel 10a. If it is, then I’m sold.
- pjc50 8mo ago
  I can't really see much that stands out, as a Pixel 7 owner; just a faster CPU and slightly tweaked cameras?
  - evanjrowley 8mo ago
    Overall I agree. It's not the most amazing option compared to the Pixel 7. There are three reasons why I'd get this: 1. The trade-in value on the Pixel 7 is depreciating with time. Upgrading today should save more money vs. upgrading down the road. 2. It's on-par with Pixel 7 and significantly less expensive than the standard Pixel 10. 3. My goal is to replace the Pixel 7 with something that has USB-C display output so I can finally use my AR glasses with my phone. All of these points are my initial impressions of the phone. Hopefully they turn out to be true of anyone who decides to go this route.
    - dnlzro 8mo ago
      > Upgrading today should save more money vs. upgrading down the road. Ehh, I’m not sure about that. It depends what trend the resale value follows. Generally, if you’re upgrading every 3 years instead of every 6 years, you’re going to be spending twice as much on new phones, but it’s not always the case that you’re getting twice as much resale value.
    - microtonal 8mo ago
      It's on-par with Pixel 7 and significantly less expensive than the standard Pixel 10. Here the Pixel 10 and 10a are exactly the same price (both 549): https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/zoeken/?keyword=pixel+10 https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/zoeken/?keyword=pixel+10 Of course, the Pixel 10 is 6 months into its cycle and heavily discounted. The Pixel 10a does not differ much from the 9a (due to keeping the same SoC, same amount of RAM, etc), and is only 369 Euro (with a low of 338). tl;dr Pixel 9a and Pixel 10 are the good deals now, at least in Europe.
Kiboneu 8mo ago
> 7 year support Funny to see that on their marketing page. The fact that they decided to drop support for the pixel 3a ~3 years after its release was fucked up. One of the reasons I stopped buying android devices.
- dnlzro 8mo ago
  I think you can take Google at their word for software support though. They promised 3 years for their phones at the time, and they delivered no less. Also, Pixel devices are very well supported by third-party ROMs after EOL: https://xdaforums.com/f/google-pixel-3a-roms-kernels-recoveries-other.8872/ https://xdaforums.com/f/google-pixel-3a-roms-kernels-recover...
  - tracker1 8mo ago
    I had a Pixel 4a until I got a 10 a few months ago... they had a couple updates even after support officially ended.
  - Kiboneu 8mo ago
    I don't want to install random ROMs from a forum. (also, I just noticed that out of all my comments, my OP was controversial enough to be downvoted <0. That's kind of funny, I thought there were better contenders.)
- kotaKat 8mo ago
  Remember when they launched the Pixel Pass? Get a new Pixel every 24 months! … then they killed the Pixel Pass at month 22. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/08/google-kills-two-year-pixel-pass-subscription-after-just-22-months/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/08/google-kills-two-yea...
- nicbou 8mo ago
  A software update killed my friend's 4a and rendered my 5 suddenly unpleasant to own. It felt almost like sabotage. It was my last android phone
samtheDamned 8mo ago
I love the lack of a camera bump. I hope there is a large enough market for that to keep the design around; I'm not the target audience but I hear laments for the days when a phone would lie flat all the time.
roryirvine 8mo ago
I'm a fan of the 'a' series - not least because of the composite back, which makes so much more sense than glass. But it's a pity that they've stopped making them smaller than the base model. I believe that ended with the 7/7a and, in this case, the 10a is actually 1 mm taller and wider than the 10, and 0.4 mm deeper. Hardly noticeable, but I'd still rather they produced a more compact variant.
cf100clunk 8mo ago
I'll only look at a 10a seriously when GrapheneOS is ready for it: https://grapheneos.org/releases https://grapheneos.org/releases
- yellowapple 8mo ago
  The other Pixel 10* devices seem to already be GrapheneOS-ready, so I wouldn't be surprised if the 10a follows suit as soon as the GrapheneOS devs get their hands on one.
  - microtonal 8mo ago
    The Pixel 9 (which GrapheneOS already supports) is more relevant here, since the 10a keeps the same SoC as the Pixel 9 series.
- Iolaum 8mo ago
  Haven't Google stopped publishing device-specific trees, hardware definitions, and drivers in AOSP so newer pixel are not that easy to use in GrapheneOS anymore?
dzonga 8mo ago
I loved my pixel 3a - it did the work then I upgraded to a 6a - overheating, battery exploded - google refused to change it coz it was bought in the uk - while I'm now in the US - as if I didn't trade my US bought 3a for a pixel 6a in the UK - some android version brought 2 photo apps - so I recovered some via the cloud - lost others finally gave up and moved back to using an iPhone - transition was easy - I recovered everything that was left intact on my iPhone SE before switching to a Pixel 3a so yeah f*k google phones
- ThePowerOfFuet 8mo ago
  No matter the manufacturer or OS, that's what happens when you don't bother backing up the valuable data on some hardware and then the hardware fails.
avian 8mo ago
> Best-in-class camera I own a Pixel 9a. It's the first phone I used that made me question how many of the pixels going out of the camera app are actually coming the sensor and how many from some AI model. Don't get me wrong. It will take front-cover magazine quality pics of that favorite turist hot spot, even in terrible light. But as soon as there's something in the frame that your average insta influencer won't typically shoot the results are weird. A green PCB on my workbench I want to document? Colors all wrong, can hardly pick out the traces. My 20 year Canon does a better job. A black-and-white hand drawn charcoal portrait? The face on the jpeg will have tan skin and pinkish cheeks. And there's no setting to turn this sort of processing off, unless you want to deal with the hassle of raw files.
- mrguyorama 8mo ago
  Uhhhhhh no? This does not happen at all. Are you using the built in Camera app? I just tried to take a picture of a black and white, outline only portrait right now and there is no added color.
  - avian 8mo ago
    Yes, built-in camera app. Maybe image processing is region dependent? On several separate occasions in my life drawing group I tried to take pictures of the drawings and they always came out tinted - not full color, but enough to look pretty weird if you know the original is in black-and-white. I also do remember that the viewfinder has shown a square around the face on the paper on those occasions, as if I was photographing a live person. I mean, sure maybe I'm doing something wrong. But the app has pretty much zero settings. I checked I was in normal photo, not the portrait mode and that Ultra HDR was turned off. And it's definitely some kind of a image post-processing step. Because the live viewfinder shows what I would expect. Then I press the shutter and the save photo is obviously different. I'm not making this up. First time I've seen this I searched the web and found many threads on reddit and such discussing similar issues on Pixel phones. One from the top of my browser history: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/otsvv2/how_to_stop_my_camera_from_editing_photos/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/otsvv2/how_to_...
ChrisArchitect 8mo ago
Blog post: https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/devices/pixel/google-pixel-10a/ https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/devices/pixel/goo...
yeah879846 8mo ago
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yellowapple 8mo ago
So compared to the 9a: slight weight reduction, lightly better screen (better brightness and contrast, newer iteration of Gorilla Glass), Android 16 instead of 15, some slight battery life and camera improvements that are probably from shipping with a newer Android version (and that the 9a therefore probably already has, since upgrading to Android 16 is an option). Seems to be using the same Tensor G4 CPU as the 9a, instead of the newer Tensor G5 of the rest of its generation. Unless I'm missing something, 9a→10a seems even more incremental than 8a→9a was. The price reduction is the most interesting thing about the 10a to me; if that ends up being permanent (instead of just a pre-order promotion), then once GrapheneOS support lands I could see this being handy with a prepaid SIM as a burner phone for international travel or music festivals or attending/documenting protests or something else where if it gets lost or stolen or confiscated as “evidence” or whatever then it wouldn't hurt quite as bad if I never saw it again. Otherwise, at the “normal” $499 pricetag I'm struggling to see much of a point v. its predecessor (or even its predecessor's predecessor).
- microtonal 8mo ago
  Yep. Here in Europe, the 10 and 10a are even the same price (549 Euro including VAT), whereas the Pixel 9a is only 369. Pixel 9a and pixel 10 are the good options right now.

38 points by meetpateltech 8mo ago

I appreciate the Google store making it relatively easy to compare the specs between current phones and end-of-sale phones. Here’s a comparison between the Pixel 10a and the Pixel 7: https://store.google.com/us/magazine/compare_pixel?hl=en-US&toggler0=Pixel+10a&toggler1=Pixel+7&toggler2=Pixel+10 https://store.google.com/us/magazine/compare_pixel?hl=en-US&... The one thing that wasn’t clear from the comparison was if USB display output is supported on the Pixel 10a. If it is, then I’m sold.

pjc50 8mo ago
I can't really see much that stands out, as a Pixel 7 owner; just a faster CPU and slightly tweaked cameras?
- evanjrowley 8mo ago
  Overall I agree. It's not the most amazing option compared to the Pixel 7. There are three reasons why I'd get this: 1. The trade-in value on the Pixel 7 is depreciating with time. Upgrading today should save more money vs. upgrading down the road. 2. It's on-par with Pixel 7 and significantly less expensive than the standard Pixel 10. 3. My goal is to replace the Pixel 7 with something that has USB-C display output so I can finally use my AR glasses with my phone. All of these points are my initial impressions of the phone. Hopefully they turn out to be true of anyone who decides to go this route.
  - dnlzro 8mo ago
    > Upgrading today should save more money vs. upgrading down the road. Ehh, I’m not sure about that. It depends what trend the resale value follows. Generally, if you’re upgrading every 3 years instead of every 6 years, you’re going to be spending twice as much on new phones, but it’s not always the case that you’re getting twice as much resale value.
  - microtonal 8mo ago
    It's on-par with Pixel 7 and significantly less expensive than the standard Pixel 10. Here the Pixel 10 and 10a are exactly the same price (both 549): https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/zoeken/?keyword=pixel+10 https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/zoeken/?keyword=pixel+10 Of course, the Pixel 10 is 6 months into its cycle and heavily discounted. The Pixel 10a does not differ much from the 9a (due to keeping the same SoC, same amount of RAM, etc), and is only 369 Euro (with a low of 338). tl;dr Pixel 9a and Pixel 10 are the good deals now, at least in Europe.

Kiboneu 8mo ago

> 7 year support Funny to see that on their marketing page. The fact that they decided to drop support for the pixel 3a ~3 years after its release was fucked up. One of the reasons I stopped buying android devices.

dnlzro 8mo ago
I think you can take Google at their word for software support though. They promised 3 years for their phones at the time, and they delivered no less. Also, Pixel devices are very well supported by third-party ROMs after EOL: https://xdaforums.com/f/google-pixel-3a-roms-kernels-recoveries-other.8872/ https://xdaforums.com/f/google-pixel-3a-roms-kernels-recover...
- tracker1 8mo ago
  I had a Pixel 4a until I got a 10 a few months ago... they had a couple updates even after support officially ended.
- Kiboneu 8mo ago
  I don't want to install random ROMs from a forum. (also, I just noticed that out of all my comments, my OP was controversial enough to be downvoted <0. That's kind of funny, I thought there were better contenders.)
kotaKat 8mo ago
Remember when they launched the Pixel Pass? Get a new Pixel every 24 months! … then they killed the Pixel Pass at month 22. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/08/google-kills-two-year-pixel-pass-subscription-after-just-22-months/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/08/google-kills-two-yea...
nicbou 8mo ago
A software update killed my friend's 4a and rendered my 5 suddenly unpleasant to own. It felt almost like sabotage. It was my last android phone

samtheDamned 8mo ago

I love the lack of a camera bump. I hope there is a large enough market for that to keep the design around; I'm not the target audience but I hear laments for the days when a phone would lie flat all the time.

roryirvine 8mo ago

I'm a fan of the 'a' series - not least because of the composite back, which makes so much more sense than glass. But it's a pity that they've stopped making them smaller than the base model. I believe that ended with the 7/7a and, in this case, the 10a is actually 1 mm taller and wider than the 10, and 0.4 mm deeper. Hardly noticeable, but I'd still rather they produced a more compact variant.

cf100clunk 8mo ago

I'll only look at a 10a seriously when GrapheneOS is ready for it: https://grapheneos.org/releases https://grapheneos.org/releases

yellowapple 8mo ago
The other Pixel 10* devices seem to already be GrapheneOS-ready, so I wouldn't be surprised if the 10a follows suit as soon as the GrapheneOS devs get their hands on one.
- microtonal 8mo ago
  The Pixel 9 (which GrapheneOS already supports) is more relevant here, since the 10a keeps the same SoC as the Pixel 9 series.
Iolaum 8mo ago
Haven't Google stopped publishing device-specific trees, hardware definitions, and drivers in AOSP so newer pixel are not that easy to use in GrapheneOS anymore?

dzonga 8mo ago

I loved my pixel 3a - it did the work then I upgraded to a 6a - overheating, battery exploded - google refused to change it coz it was bought in the uk - while I'm now in the US - as if I didn't trade my US bought 3a for a pixel 6a in the UK - some android version brought 2 photo apps - so I recovered some via the cloud - lost others finally gave up and moved back to using an iPhone - transition was easy - I recovered everything that was left intact on my iPhone SE before switching to a Pixel 3a so yeah f*k google phones

ThePowerOfFuet 8mo ago
No matter the manufacturer or OS, that's what happens when you don't bother backing up the valuable data on some hardware and then the hardware fails.

avian 8mo ago

> Best-in-class camera I own a Pixel 9a. It's the first phone I used that made me question how many of the pixels going out of the camera app are actually coming the sensor and how many from some AI model. Don't get me wrong. It will take front-cover magazine quality pics of that favorite turist hot spot, even in terrible light. But as soon as there's something in the frame that your average insta influencer won't typically shoot the results are weird. A green PCB on my workbench I want to document? Colors all wrong, can hardly pick out the traces. My 20 year Canon does a better job. A black-and-white hand drawn charcoal portrait? The face on the jpeg will have tan skin and pinkish cheeks. And there's no setting to turn this sort of processing off, unless you want to deal with the hassle of raw files.

mrguyorama 8mo ago
Uhhhhhh no? This does not happen at all. Are you using the built in Camera app? I just tried to take a picture of a black and white, outline only portrait right now and there is no added color.
- avian 8mo ago
  Yes, built-in camera app. Maybe image processing is region dependent? On several separate occasions in my life drawing group I tried to take pictures of the drawings and they always came out tinted - not full color, but enough to look pretty weird if you know the original is in black-and-white. I also do remember that the viewfinder has shown a square around the face on the paper on those occasions, as if I was photographing a live person. I mean, sure maybe I'm doing something wrong. But the app has pretty much zero settings. I checked I was in normal photo, not the portrait mode and that Ultra HDR was turned off. And it's definitely some kind of a image post-processing step. Because the live viewfinder shows what I would expect. Then I press the shutter and the save photo is obviously different. I'm not making this up. First time I've seen this I searched the web and found many threads on reddit and such discussing similar issues on Pixel phones. One from the top of my browser history: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/otsvv2/how_to_stop_my_camera_from_editing_photos/ https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/otsvv2/how_to_...

ChrisArchitect 8mo ago

Blog post: https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/devices/pixel/google-pixel-10a/ https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/devices/pixel/goo...

yeah879846 8mo ago

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yellowapple 8mo ago

So compared to the 9a: slight weight reduction, lightly better screen (better brightness and contrast, newer iteration of Gorilla Glass), Android 16 instead of 15, some slight battery life and camera improvements that are probably from shipping with a newer Android version (and that the 9a therefore probably already has, since upgrading to Android 16 is an option). Seems to be using the same Tensor G4 CPU as the 9a, instead of the newer Tensor G5 of the rest of its generation. Unless I'm missing something, 9a→10a seems even more incremental than 8a→9a was. The price reduction is the most interesting thing about the 10a to me; if that ends up being permanent (instead of just a pre-order promotion), then once GrapheneOS support lands I could see this being handy with a prepaid SIM as a burner phone for international travel or music festivals or attending/documenting protests or something else where if it gets lost or stolen or confiscated as “evidence” or whatever then it wouldn't hurt quite as bad if I never saw it again. Otherwise, at the “normal” $499 pricetag I'm struggling to see much of a point v. its predecessor (or even its predecessor's predecessor).

microtonal 8mo ago
Yep. Here in Europe, the 10 and 10a are even the same price (549 Euro including VAT), whereas the Pixel 9a is only 369. Pixel 9a and pixel 10 are the good options right now.