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So basically you have a gut feeling that you feel very passionately, but that we have no way of evaluating. It might be just as likely that zero of the people

So basically you have a gut feeling that you feel very passionately, but that we have no way of evaluating. It might be just as likely that zero of the people in such a position took the vaccines for all we know. How is this somehow more enlightened than the idiocracy that you are decrying?

llm_nerd 8mo ago
Ignoring that most, like Trump, just outright admitted it, simple logic dictates that reality. When something has overwhelming scientific and medical evidence in its favour, and the alternative are a bunch of high school dropout conspiracy nuts cheered on by simpletons like Joe Rogan, odds overwhelmingly lean towards the connected and rich going in one direction. Like, this is so blatantly obvious that I find your scepticism laughable.
- ifyoubuildit 8mo ago
  > Ignoring that most, like Trump, just outright admitted it So if trump said it, it must be true? The rest of what you said could be translated to: "I believe it was such a good idea, all the rich and powerful must have done it". How is this not a gut feeling? My skepticism is solely for your argument, not that these people did or did not take the vaccine, which is something that I consider basically unknowable without a lot of leaps of faith. Edit: in fact, here's my equally unprovable assertion: most people got the vaccine because they didn't want to lose their jobs. Rich and powerful people don't have to worry about that. Therefore fewer of them got the vaccines.
- cies 8mo ago
  You revert to calling names... It's a clear sign of losing imho. Oh and this picture proves your whole story is, what others here have already pointed out, your "gut feeling" promoted by you as the "science". https://unherd.com/newsroom/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-education-group-of-all-phds/ https://unherd.com/newsroom/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-educat... PHDs take less vaccines. Checkmate.
  - llm_nerd 8mo ago
    Checkmate? Are you purposefully trying to fit the cliche? Just to be clear, you are citing a worthless online Facebook poll. The sort where people like you check "PhD" (the -h is lowercase, bro) because you think it makes your rhetoric more authoritative. There are countless other studies -- ones that aren't a dogshit, worthless online Facebook poll -- that show an extremely strong correlation between anti-vax beliefs and having a lower education level, and often being lower intelligence. Overwhelming evidence. But I suspect that you will just flood the space with bullshit from horseshit venues like "unherd", so I bid you goodbye. You mentioned elsewhere, after the ridiculous anti-vax horseshit you said about Zuck, that you aren't an anti-vaxxer. I guarantee you 100% are.
    - cies 8mo ago
      You already agreed that he said it. So funny how you twist and turn in order to believe the narrative you were force fed. I'm anti the rushed out, badly tested, mRNA treatment. It's not a vaccine. Believe as you wish.

llm_nerd 8mo ago

Ignoring that most, like Trump, just outright admitted it, simple logic dictates that reality. When something has overwhelming scientific and medical evidence in its favour, and the alternative are a bunch of high school dropout conspiracy nuts cheered on by simpletons like Joe Rogan, odds overwhelmingly lean towards the connected and rich going in one direction. Like, this is so blatantly obvious that I find your scepticism laughable.

ifyoubuildit 8mo ago
> Ignoring that most, like Trump, just outright admitted it So if trump said it, it must be true? The rest of what you said could be translated to: "I believe it was such a good idea, all the rich and powerful must have done it". How is this not a gut feeling? My skepticism is solely for your argument, not that these people did or did not take the vaccine, which is something that I consider basically unknowable without a lot of leaps of faith. Edit: in fact, here's my equally unprovable assertion: most people got the vaccine because they didn't want to lose their jobs. Rich and powerful people don't have to worry about that. Therefore fewer of them got the vaccines.
cies 8mo ago
You revert to calling names... It's a clear sign of losing imho. Oh and this picture proves your whole story is, what others here have already pointed out, your "gut feeling" promoted by you as the "science". https://unherd.com/newsroom/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-education-group-of-all-phds/ https://unherd.com/newsroom/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-educat... PHDs take less vaccines. Checkmate.
- llm_nerd 8mo ago
  Checkmate? Are you purposefully trying to fit the cliche? Just to be clear, you are citing a worthless online Facebook poll. The sort where people like you check "PhD" (the -h is lowercase, bro) because you think it makes your rhetoric more authoritative. There are countless other studies -- ones that aren't a dogshit, worthless online Facebook poll -- that show an extremely strong correlation between anti-vax beliefs and having a lower education level, and often being lower intelligence. Overwhelming evidence. But I suspect that you will just flood the space with bullshit from horseshit venues like "unherd", so I bid you goodbye. You mentioned elsewhere, after the ridiculous anti-vax horseshit you said about Zuck, that you aren't an anti-vaxxer. I guarantee you 100% are.
  - cies 8mo ago
    You already agreed that he said it. So funny how you twist and turn in order to believe the narrative you were force fed. I'm anti the rushed out, badly tested, mRNA treatment. It's not a vaccine. Believe as you wish.