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I'm very surprised the article doesn't mention Bun. Bun is significantly faster than Vite & Rolldown, if it's simply speed one is aiming for. More importantly B

I'm very surprised the article doesn't mention Bun. Bun is significantly faster than Vite & Rolldown, if it's simply speed one is aiming for. More importantly Bun allows for simplicity. Install Bun, you get Bundler included and TypeScript just works, and it's blazing fast.

canadiantim 8mo ago
Bun can replace vite?
- netghost 8mo ago
  Bun ships with lots of tools built in. It has support for bundling js, html, etc for the browser. I suspect that if you want the best results or to hit all the edge cases you'd still want vite, but bun probably covers most needs.
- TheAlexLichter 8mo ago
  Not really.
yurishimo 8mo ago
IMO Bun and Vite are best suited for slightly different things. Not to say that there isn't a lot of overlap, but if you don't need many of the features Bun provides, it can be a bit overkill. Personally, I write a lot of Vue, so using a "first party" environment has a lot of advantages for me. Perhaps if you are a React developer, the swap might be even more straightforward. I also think it's important to take into consideration the other two packages mentioned in this post (oxlint & oxfmt) because they are first class citizens in Vite (and soon to be Vite+). Bun might be a _technically_ faster dev server, but if your other tools are still slow, that might be a moot point. Also, Typescript also "just works" in Vite as well. I have a project on work that is using `.ts` files without even an `tsconfig` file in the project. https://vite.dev/guide/features#typescript https://vite.dev/guide/features#typescript
- squidsoup 8mo ago
  Worth mentioning that both oxfmt/oxc are in alpha. I would put money on them replacing prettier and eslint, but they're not ready for production yet.
kevinfiol 8mo ago
It's been a while since I've tried it, but post-1.0 release of Bun still seemed like beta software and I would get all sorts of hard to understand errors while building a simple CRUD app. My impression from the project is the maintainers were adding so many features that they were spread too thin. Hopefully it's a little more stable now.
dcre 8mo ago
Bun and Vite are not really analogous. Bun includes features that overlap with Vite but Vite does a lot more. (It goes without saying that Bun also does things Vite doesn't do because Bun is a whole JS runtime.)

canadiantim 8mo ago

Bun can replace vite?

netghost 8mo ago
Bun ships with lots of tools built in. It has support for bundling js, html, etc for the browser. I suspect that if you want the best results or to hit all the edge cases you'd still want vite, but bun probably covers most needs.
TheAlexLichter 8mo ago
Not really.

yurishimo 8mo ago

IMO Bun and Vite are best suited for slightly different things. Not to say that there isn't a lot of overlap, but if you don't need many of the features Bun provides, it can be a bit overkill. Personally, I write a lot of Vue, so using a "first party" environment has a lot of advantages for me. Perhaps if you are a React developer, the swap might be even more straightforward. I also think it's important to take into consideration the other two packages mentioned in this post (oxlint & oxfmt) because they are first class citizens in Vite (and soon to be Vite+). Bun might be a _technically_ faster dev server, but if your other tools are still slow, that might be a moot point. Also, Typescript also "just works" in Vite as well. I have a project on work that is using `.ts` files without even an `tsconfig` file in the project. https://vite.dev/guide/features#typescript https://vite.dev/guide/features#typescript

squidsoup 8mo ago
Worth mentioning that both oxfmt/oxc are in alpha. I would put money on them replacing prettier and eslint, but they're not ready for production yet.

kevinfiol 8mo ago

It's been a while since I've tried it, but post-1.0 release of Bun still seemed like beta software and I would get all sorts of hard to understand errors while building a simple CRUD app. My impression from the project is the maintainers were adding so many features that they were spread too thin. Hopefully it's a little more stable now.

dcre 8mo ago

Bun and Vite are not really analogous. Bun includes features that overlap with Vite but Vite does a lot more. (It goes without saying that Bun also does things Vite doesn't do because Bun is a whole JS runtime.)