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While the operator did write a post, they did not come forward - they have intentionally stayed anonymous (there is some amateur journalism that may have unmask
by cmeacham98 8mo ago
While the operator did write a post, they did not come forward - they have intentionally stayed anonymous (there is some amateur journalism that may have unmasked the owner I won't link here - but they have not intentionally revealed their identity).
Personally I find it highly unethical the operator had an AI agent write a hitpiece directly referencing your IRL identity but choose to remain anonymous themselves. Why not open themself up to such criticism? I believe it is because they know what they did was wrong - Even if they did not intentionally steer the agent this way, allowing software on their computer to publish a hitpiece to the internet was wildly negligent.
- calvinmorrison 8mo agoTime for scott to make history and sue the guy for defamation. Lets cancel the AI destroying our (the plural our, as in all developers) with actual liability for the bullshit being produced.
- hackingonempty 8mo agoDo you see anything actually defamatory in the _Gatekeeping in Open Source_ blog post, like false factual statements? Shambaugh might qualify as a limited public figure too because he has thrust himself into the controversy by publishing several blog posts, and has sat for media interviews regarding this incident. Seems like a tough road to hoe.
- donkey_brains 8mo agoIt’s “row”. The expression is “a tough road to row”. This refers to the fact that rowboats are notoriously difficult to operate on dry land.
- scrumper 8mo agoGood news! You’re both wrong! It’s “tough row to hoe.” Row as in row of corn, or seeds or whatever. Hoe as in the earth tilling tool. Tough because it’s full of rocks or frozen or goes past a rattlesnake nest or in some other way is agriculturally challenging. Here is a multiply-sourced discussion https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/62461/is-it-a-tough-row-to-hoe-or-a-tough-road-to-hold https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/62461/is-it-a-to...
- hackingonempty 8mo agothanks!
- calvinmorrison 8mo agoworth a try!
- skeledrew 8mo agoWhat's the benefit in the operator revealing themself? It doesn't change any of what happened, for good or bad. Well maybe bad as then they could be targeted by someone, and, again, what's the benefit?
- bandrami 8mo agoIf bad actions do not have consequences they tend to be repeated
- DemocracyFTW2 8mo ago> What's the benefit in the operator revealing themself? That's a frighteningly illiterate take on this.
- anonymars 8mo agoI don't think that constructively answers the questions
- blochist 8mo agoIt's an excellent comment on the attitude behind the question and this is, after all, a comment section not an "answers" section.
- anonymars 8mo ago"No it's not" See how that works? Flippant dismissal contributes little if anything to discussion and is a conversational dead-end --- What makes it "frighteningly illiterate" to ask "what difference does it make if they put a name to the post?" Does it change the outcome? Does it change the ideas? Does it change the unsettling implications about alignment? The internet is a frothing mob, look at the impact on Scott himself. Other than allow the internet to hunt them down and do it's thing or dig up ad-hominem attacks, what would change if the person put a name to it? Look at what this guy got from the "internet sleuths" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46991190 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46991190) Other sibling comments made an attempt to answer those questions