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So it begins..... Steam proved gaming doesn't depend on Windows, Linux can do it too. Countries in Europe feed-up with Windows moving to Linux LibreOffice is

So it begins..... Steam proved gaming doesn't depend on Windows, Linux can do it too. Countries in Europe feed-up with Windows moving to Linux LibreOffice is eating Microsoft 365 lunch Microsoft buying GitHub caused a mass-exodus, its AI push is causing another mass-exodus. Big open-source project moving away from GitHub, we only need a big player to make the move, followers will come.

smlavine 8mo ago
> LibreOffice is eating Microsoft 365 lunch This one misses the point entirely, I'm sorry to say. Microsoft 365's "lunch" is that a majority of US businesses, schools, and governments are reliant on 365 for anything in their organization to function.
- okanat 8mo ago
  And also majority of European businesses and governments and schools. Europe is well integrated into US. Quite a few STOXX 600 have US wings or acquired US companies. Basically a substantial (non-software) enginerring or financial work is done in Microsoft's proprietary formats, occasionaly involving VBA. Many businesses cannot even pay salaries without macro-ridden Excel documents. With 365 Microsoft has even stronger moat: cloud integrated co-editing using desktop apps. No browser will exceed C++/C# Office apps running directly on the PC. Not even proprietary apps have equivalent experience. On top of that add all Azure, SharePoint etc. All big companies without exception use those and put significant portion of their business knowledge on Microsoft platforms. US can literally kill Europe by just forcing Microsoft to shutdown its operations. It is fucking scary.
  - M95D 8mo ago
    There are more effective ways of doing that. For example invalidate all european Visa and Mastercards. That would really kill most of Europe.
- richardlblair 8mo ago
  That one made me lol. This same conversation happened a little while ago. Both powerpoint and excel are well ahead of the competition.
m4rtink 8mo ago
Copilot is also eating office, at least branding wise. :)
kstrauser 8mo ago
> LibreOffice is eating Microsoft 365 lunch No way. I love LibreOffice. It's fantastic. I rolled it out to a prior employer where everyone needed a word processor but we certainly didn't need to pay Office prices when we didn't have requirements that only Office could satisfy. A high point was when we were having trouble collaborating on a DOCX file with a customer, then they sheepishly told us that they weren't using Office, but this other LibreOffice (OO.org at the time) thing. We laughed and told them we were, too. That day we started swapping ODT files instead and everything worked 100x better. And all that said, I haven't seen LibreOffice in person in years. Mac shops uses Pages & friends for internal stuff, but really, almost everyone not using Office 365 or whatever they're calling it now is using Google Docs. Google is eating Microsoft's lunch in this space, and my gut estimate is that they split 95+% of the office software market between them. I do wish that weren't the case, but my personal experience tells me it is. I wish it were more common, and also that there was a virtuous cycle where more Mac users made it get more attention, and more attention made it feel more like a "Mac-assed Mac app", and feeling more like a Mac-assed Mac app got it more users, etc. I just don't see that playing out.
techcode 8mo ago
Countries in Europe realized that if USA sanctions International Criminal Court judge - that judge suddenly loses access to their email/calendar/docs/etc because Microsoft/Google/etc have to comply. For the rest - yes.
not_a9 8mo ago
> Steam proved gaming doesn't depend on Windows, Linux can do it too. Aren’t most games built on Windows and for Windows?

smlavine 8mo ago

> LibreOffice is eating Microsoft 365 lunch This one misses the point entirely, I'm sorry to say. Microsoft 365's "lunch" is that a majority of US businesses, schools, and governments are reliant on 365 for anything in their organization to function.

okanat 8mo ago
And also majority of European businesses and governments and schools. Europe is well integrated into US. Quite a few STOXX 600 have US wings or acquired US companies. Basically a substantial (non-software) enginerring or financial work is done in Microsoft's proprietary formats, occasionaly involving VBA. Many businesses cannot even pay salaries without macro-ridden Excel documents. With 365 Microsoft has even stronger moat: cloud integrated co-editing using desktop apps. No browser will exceed C++/C# Office apps running directly on the PC. Not even proprietary apps have equivalent experience. On top of that add all Azure, SharePoint etc. All big companies without exception use those and put significant portion of their business knowledge on Microsoft platforms. US can literally kill Europe by just forcing Microsoft to shutdown its operations. It is fucking scary.
- M95D 8mo ago
  There are more effective ways of doing that. For example invalidate all european Visa and Mastercards. That would really kill most of Europe.
richardlblair 8mo ago
That one made me lol. This same conversation happened a little while ago. Both powerpoint and excel are well ahead of the competition.

m4rtink 8mo ago

Copilot is also eating office, at least branding wise. :)

kstrauser 8mo ago

> LibreOffice is eating Microsoft 365 lunch No way. I love LibreOffice. It's fantastic. I rolled it out to a prior employer where everyone needed a word processor but we certainly didn't need to pay Office prices when we didn't have requirements that only Office could satisfy. A high point was when we were having trouble collaborating on a DOCX file with a customer, then they sheepishly told us that they weren't using Office, but this other LibreOffice (OO.org at the time) thing. We laughed and told them we were, too. That day we started swapping ODT files instead and everything worked 100x better. And all that said, I haven't seen LibreOffice in person in years. Mac shops uses Pages & friends for internal stuff, but really, almost everyone not using Office 365 or whatever they're calling it now is using Google Docs. Google is eating Microsoft's lunch in this space, and my gut estimate is that they split 95+% of the office software market between them. I do wish that weren't the case, but my personal experience tells me it is. I wish it were more common, and also that there was a virtuous cycle where more Mac users made it get more attention, and more attention made it feel more like a "Mac-assed Mac app", and feeling more like a Mac-assed Mac app got it more users, etc. I just don't see that playing out.

techcode 8mo ago

Countries in Europe realized that if USA sanctions International Criminal Court judge - that judge suddenly loses access to their email/calendar/docs/etc because Microsoft/Google/etc have to comply. For the rest - yes.

not_a9 8mo ago

> Steam proved gaming doesn't depend on Windows, Linux can do it too. Aren’t most games built on Windows and for Windows?