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How is the question nonsensical? It's a perfectly valid question.
by emil-lp 8mo ago
How is the question nonsensical? It's a perfectly valid question.
- jatari 8mo agoI agree that it doesn't break any rules of the English language, that doesn't make it a valid question in everyday contexts though. Ask a human that question randomly and see how they respond.
- mvdtnz 8mo agoCan you explain yourself? I can't see how this question doesn't make sense in any way.
- methyl 8mo agoBecause to 99.9% people it’s obvious and fair to assume that person asking this question knows that you need a car to wash it. No one ever could ask this question not knowing this, so it implies some trick layer.
- dugidugout 8mo agoBecause validity doesn't depend on meaning. Take the classic example: "What is north of the North Pole?". This is a valid phrasing of a question, but is meaningless without extra context about spherical geometry. The trick question in reference is similar in that its intended meaning is contained entirely in the LLM output.
- simondotau 8mo agoThere's nothing syntactically meaningless about wanting your car washed.
- dugidugout 8mo agoI wasn't under the impression anyone was discussing car washing.
- simondotau 8mo ago>>>>>>> Still fails the car wash question >>>>>> Remarkable, since the goal is clearly stated >>>>> Well it is...non-sensical...the car is already at the car wash >>>> How is the [car wash] question nonsensical? >>> Because validity doesn't depend on meaning. >> There's nothing syntactically meaningless about wanting your car washed. > I wasn't under the impression anyone was discussing car washing. Maybe you replied to the wrong post by mistake?
- dugidugout 8mo agoI was not replying to your remark, but rather, a later comment regarding the "validity" vs "sensibility". I don't see where I made any distinction concerning wanting to wash cars. But now I suppose I'll engage your remark. The question is clearly a trick in any interpretive frame I can imagine. You are treating the prompt as a coherent reality which it isn't. The query is essentially a logical null-set. Any answer the AI provides is merely an attempt to bridge that void through hallucinated context and certainly has nothing to do with a genuine desire to wash your car.
- simondotau 8mo agoI wasn't under the impression anyone was discussing "genuine desire".
- dugidugout 8mo agoIt isn't clear you wish to discuss anything with me at all. Why do you seem to be feigning as much?