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Seriously? blue uniforms, white name tags, flat display tables, guru bars... It's like they purposely tried to copy every distinguishable Apple retail formula e

Seriously? blue uniforms, white name tags, flat display tables, guru bars... It's like they purposely tried to copy every distinguishable Apple retail formula except they're pushing PCs. Does noone have any creativity left anymore?

firefoxman1 14y ago
It's Microsoft. Microsoft has never been about innovation or creativity. I'm not one to bash them, it's just important to look back at their history. Their last innovation was the Start menu.
bbissoon 14y ago
It's not about creativity when you're running a store. It's about finding a method that works and tweaking it to fit your product. The creativity is in the product and advertising.
- firefoxman1 14y ago
  Unless you want your restaurant to be known as the "best" in town. That requires more than just tweaking.
  - bbissoon 14y ago
    ... food hasn't really changed much in our generation. Only tweaked by ways of cooking it. I promise you - whatever you ate in the last week has only been tweaked. The creativity came with the people who created the dish long ago.
- hizanberg 14y ago
  So every other tech retail company that doesn't copy Apple is foolish? If that's the case we're headed towards a bland, uninspiring world.
  - bbissoon 14y ago
    The loyalty of Apple's consumers speaks volume. It's only natural for tech companies to follow their lead. It's about great customers service and that's not limited to Apple.
crabasa 14y ago
"Does noone have any creativity left anymore?" That's a good summation of most comments on HN about Windows 8 and the Surface. It's too bad, because it's exactly the same poor level of discourse that happened when OSX came out and ALL developers were on Windows or Linux. Of course, when Apple finally releases a unified version of OSX and iOS and releases their convertible device, I'm sure it will be perfect.
- hizanberg 14y ago
  You don't know Apple if you think they're going to release a convertible device. Also there were plenty of shopping mall stands selling iPad keyboards months before Surface was announced. Keyboards aren't what makes tablets successful.
  - ghshephard 14y ago
    I guarantee you that Apple will release a converged device within 2-3 years, almost as much as I guarantee you that up until the day they release such a device, they will insist that the compromises associated with such a device would make it infeasible for them to build. Honestly - who wants to carry both a Laptop and a Tablet - I currently do, but, if some clever company could figure out how to give me the best of both worlds (Light, 100% focus, responsive Tablet + Keyboard Base for laptop typing, shortcuts, touchpad, multi-tasking when I'm rocking out 20 Apps and 40 console windows) - then I'll be first in line. (And, if you really want to take over the world, release a device with a stylus that matches, or exceeds, the resolution of a typical pen-on-paper) I'm actually quite intrigued by the Surface - looking forward to checking it out. Now if only someone would write a decent Terminal.App for Windows RT.... (No, Putty and SecureCRT don't count. And I don't think either of them run on Windows RT anyways).
    - hizanberg 14y ago
      What is this guarantee based on? Apples DNA is to optimize the device for each use case. A tablet is optimized for finger touch and on screen gestures. A laptop is optimized for portable productivity and keyboard input. You can't create a UI/UX that works best for both and Apple isn't about to start compromising. My Air and iPad combined is lighter than most other laptops, when I want instant info + utility I whip out my iPad, when I need to do work I open the Air.

firefoxman1 14y ago

It's Microsoft. Microsoft has never been about innovation or creativity. I'm not one to bash them, it's just important to look back at their history. Their last innovation was the Start menu.

bbissoon 14y ago

It's not about creativity when you're running a store. It's about finding a method that works and tweaking it to fit your product. The creativity is in the product and advertising.

firefoxman1 14y ago
Unless you want your restaurant to be known as the "best" in town. That requires more than just tweaking.
- bbissoon 14y ago
  ... food hasn't really changed much in our generation. Only tweaked by ways of cooking it. I promise you - whatever you ate in the last week has only been tweaked. The creativity came with the people who created the dish long ago.
hizanberg 14y ago
So every other tech retail company that doesn't copy Apple is foolish? If that's the case we're headed towards a bland, uninspiring world.
- bbissoon 14y ago
  The loyalty of Apple's consumers speaks volume. It's only natural for tech companies to follow their lead. It's about great customers service and that's not limited to Apple.

crabasa 14y ago

"Does noone have any creativity left anymore?" That's a good summation of most comments on HN about Windows 8 and the Surface. It's too bad, because it's exactly the same poor level of discourse that happened when OSX came out and ALL developers were on Windows or Linux. Of course, when Apple finally releases a unified version of OSX and iOS and releases their convertible device, I'm sure it will be perfect.

hizanberg 14y ago
You don't know Apple if you think they're going to release a convertible device. Also there were plenty of shopping mall stands selling iPad keyboards months before Surface was announced. Keyboards aren't what makes tablets successful.
- ghshephard 14y ago
  I guarantee you that Apple will release a converged device within 2-3 years, almost as much as I guarantee you that up until the day they release such a device, they will insist that the compromises associated with such a device would make it infeasible for them to build. Honestly - who wants to carry both a Laptop and a Tablet - I currently do, but, if some clever company could figure out how to give me the best of both worlds (Light, 100% focus, responsive Tablet + Keyboard Base for laptop typing, shortcuts, touchpad, multi-tasking when I'm rocking out 20 Apps and 40 console windows) - then I'll be first in line. (And, if you really want to take over the world, release a device with a stylus that matches, or exceeds, the resolution of a typical pen-on-paper) I'm actually quite intrigued by the Surface - looking forward to checking it out. Now if only someone would write a decent Terminal.App for Windows RT.... (No, Putty and SecureCRT don't count. And I don't think either of them run on Windows RT anyways).
  - hizanberg 14y ago
    What is this guarantee based on? Apples DNA is to optimize the device for each use case. A tablet is optimized for finger touch and on screen gestures. A laptop is optimized for portable productivity and keyboard input. You can't create a UI/UX that works best for both and Apple isn't about to start compromising. My Air and iPad combined is lighter than most other laptops, when I want instant info + utility I whip out my iPad, when I need to do work I open the Air.