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Congratulations on IE10: from Mozilla with cake
- Too 14y ago> Back when Firefox 2 was released (six years ago this week!), > the Internet Explorer team started a friendly tradition of sending Mozilla a cake > as congratulations. This continued for Firefox 3 and Firefox 4. This finally explains why they changed to the more frequent release schedule.
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- rat87 14y agoAnd in response the ie team switched to sending them a cupcake per release.
- Magenta 14y agoThis continued good-natured back-and-forth is nice to see. Kind of reminds me of something Stephen Potter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Potter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Potter) would have done, had he been in the tech industry :)
- freditup 14y agoMajor tech organizations being friendly with each other? Unthinkable! We must put a stop to this madness before it spreads to to other tech companies and humanity in general! But don't fear, we always have Apple v. Google, Microsoft v. Apple, Samsung v. Apple and a whole host of others to remind us of how we should behave.
- chris_wot 14y agoIn 1930 he wrote D. H. Lawrence: A First Study, the first book-length work on Lawrence, which appeared in print within a few days of the death of its subject, unfortunate timing because it seemed like an inadequate memorial rather than what it was intended to be, a critical reappraisal. It also suffered from a regrettable misprint, rendering the heading "Sea and Sardinia", as "Sex and Sardinia". This was soon amplified by rumour into "Sex and Sardines", none of which helped Potter's reputation as a serious writer. Poor bastard.
- chris_wot 14y agoAbsolutely no cake love for Safari?
- mtgx 14y agoI think Apple can afford its own cake.
- jklio 14y agoOr at least to put their own icing on KHTML's cake.
- neya 14y agoSending a cake to yourself and getting excited about it is the lamest situation I could ever imagine of.
- mtgx 14y agoThe reality distortion field works on anything - even on making them get excited about their own cake. I'm just kidding, of course. No, not really.
- dbaupp 14y agoI don't know: it might be a very nice cake.
- kellishaver 14y agoCake generally excites me, regardless of the source.
- chris_wot 14y agoWhat about a cake of soap?
- Achshar 14y ago...and then some.
- CKKim 14y ago> Just 30 minutes later, Michael Bolan tweeted that the cake was gone. This has me thinking of that scene in Mike Judge's Office Space where Milton always happens to be in the wrong part of the crowd relative to the cake and never gets a piece. Cruel but hilarious. I don't know how many people there are in that office, but I hope it's sufficiently few that no-one got Miltoned :).
- neya 14y agoYou know what is so amazing about this tradition? It is not about the software or the companies that build them, it is about people sharing their 'love' and respect for each other citing the software as a reason. I simply love this. I think even we should team up and send pg, and his new YC teams a cake every year (without expecting a cake in return :P ) :)
- keithpeter 14y agoI would imagine that these two teams, and the Chrome team, are the only people who fully understand what supporting an application as complex as a Web browser entails. And the IE10 team are now dealing with different architectures (arm and x86?).
- davej 14y agoOpera?
- keithpeter 14y agoOh, yes, how could I forget Opera, cross platform, cross architecture, mobile and PCs. Perhaps it is hard to get cakes to Oslo?
- salmanapk 14y agoHell it even runs on TVs!
- tangue 14y agoI love this browser it ran flawlessly on almost anything, and when it comes to cake Opera is hard to beat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_cake http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_cake
- ygra 14y agoIE has dealt with different architectures since its very beginning, as has Windows. Recall that Windows so far ran on x86, x86-64, IA64, DEC Alpha, MIPS, PowerPC and ARM (and I probably forgot a few). Also they re-used the Trident Engine whenever they needed a browser on another device, so ARM isn't exactly new to them (Windows Phone) or even other platforms (XBox 360 is PowerPC).
- lifeisstillgood 14y agoLike CIA and KGB agents in hot remote countries, the opposing camps turn out to have far more in common with each other than their "motherlands"
- davej 14y ago> "As you can see from their picture, the bottom border of the cake was slightly restyled in transit" They should have doubled the padding to be safe.
- happypeter 14y agoLet's talk, let's be friends, let's make the web a better place for everyone. No War!
- gprasanth 14y agoDoes IE copy parts of code from Firefox? [Honest question.]
- sawrubh 14y agoGuess you will never know (read: closed source) ;)
- DanBC 14y agoThe licensing means that MS would have to disclose whether or not they did. Since they haven't, and since MS are good at that kind of thing, we can say that IE does not include Firefox code. When Windows had some BSD code the EULA was clear. (Not sure why your straight forward question got downvoted.)
- ck2 14y agoAre there like "icing printers" now or is that done by hand?
- DanBC 14y agoThe icing is done by hand. You can buy stencils for the lettering. I guess an SVG of the logo can be used as a template to cut out paste. But you raise a good idea: 3d printing of sugar "stuff" to print messages for cakes on demand, in any font. Printed edible sheets to put on cakes already exist.
- mbrubeck 14y agoThere are bakeries that can decorate cake using inkjet or screen-printing machines (with edible dyes, of course) but the logo on this cake was hand-painted.
- Raphael_Amiard 14y agoIt gave me warm fuzzy feelings to see two members of the IE team with Firefox sweaters ! That's what you can call healthy competition i guess.
- runn1ng 14y agoShouldn't they.... hate each other?
- apawloski 14y agoOf course they're competitors (although the Mozilla party line is "competition is better for everyone"), but I think the takeaway here is the mutual respect they have for each other. Building a browser is hard. And building a good browser (which IE 10 is, by the way) is a major endeavor. So I think each team has a pretty good idea of the level of achievement that comes with finally shipping.
- ygra 14y agoAlso the rivalry is often more at the level of the company above them and not the individual developers.