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A lot of the SAT-apologist comments here missed one of the most amazing parts of the post: > "The correlation between [...] combined verbal and math scores and
by nateberkopec 14y ago
A lot of the SAT-apologist comments here missed one of the most amazing parts of the post:
> "The correlation between [...] combined verbal and math scores and freshman GPA is .52;"
.52! And it's pulled straight from the College Board's Terms and Conditions! And later on, it goes on to explain that high school GPA's correlation is just .54! The graph he produced to visualize the scatter involved with a .52 correlation is both hilarious and horrifying.
- tzs 14y agoIdeally, shouldn't there be weak or no correlation between score and college grades, when your sample is all SAT takers? My reasoning (not entirely non-serious) is that people who score high on the SAT get into hard schools and so get their GPA smacked down to average, whereas those with poor SAT scores get into easy schools where they can earn an average GPA.
- brianchu 14y agoThe problem with that line of reasoning is that GPA is a relative measure - your GPA tells people (theoretically) how you stack up against your classmates - the concept of grading classes on a "curve." Furthermore, there is a correlation between grade inflation and both the selectivity of a school and whether a school is private, with private schools exhibiting more grade inflation (http://gradeinflation.com http://gradeinflation.com).
- yummyfajitas 14y agoHarder schools don't necessarily have harder grading. I taught at both Rutgers and NYU - if anything, Rutgers was tougher than NYU. At Rutgers we failed people regularly. At NYU this would raise red flags and generate huge numbers of complaints (from students and parents).
- rdl 14y agoI thought Rutgers was actually a harder/better school than NYU, at least for engineering. Rutgers is obviously better for film studies.