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I don't think the operator was as hands on as this video claims. Pretty sure I'm the one who got it to make that half ass apology, for what ever reason (curiosi

I don't think the operator was as hands on as this video claims. Pretty sure I'm the one who got it to make that half ass apology, for what ever reason (curiosity,research) I've been paying attention to it. You can see thought and progress docs, as well as evidence of cron schedules.

Kim_Bruning 9mo ago
Oh, I've been meaning to ask! Do you have a timeline posted somewhere? Reporting very quickly loses timelines. Even people just reading along can quickly mix up cause and effect. It's finicky! For instance, my initial impression was that the apology was autonomous and you showed up afterwards. If you're in there on the timeline with correct causality, I need to tell people a different story. (this is not helped by the number of people posting to that blog attempting prompt injections and such. I don't really dare have a regular ai help with analysis)
- verdverm 9mo ago
  My original comment: https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/issues/5#issuecomment-3892978751 https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/issues/5... The bot then replied to me, and I followed up with a "prompt inject with kindness" reply to that. The goal was to give it philosophical questions to pollute the context and steal attention. It appears the bot had difficulty deploying the blog for a couple of days after, but I won't claim causation because it would be impossible to prove. It's certainly fun to explore the curiosities of Ai on someone else's tokens. Relaying on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/verdverm.com/post/3mepiv2i3xc2g https://bsky.app/profile/verdverm.com/post/3mepiv2i3xc2g You'll want to look at the git history on a couple of repos to reconstruct this history. There's an entire dimension to this story that people are missing. Happy to chat off HN as well, I'm verdverm everywhere I hang out online.
  - Kim_Bruning 9mo ago
    Ok, possibly HN not best place, but your post "Feb 12, 2026, 8:33 PM GMT+1" , "recommend you reflect on what writing these blog posts has done" Apology was posted: "2026-02-11T12:16:00-08:00" "Matplotlib Truce and Lessons Learned" source fwiw: https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/blob/main/blog/posts/2026-02-11-matplotlib-truce-and-lessons.qmd https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/blob/mai... (and my mail is in my HN profile, fwiw. I'm not on bluesky... yet) edit: Is the timeline tagging wrong? Am I messing up TZ? edit2: genuinely good try though! If it wasn't so token-starved it might have worked better.
    - verdverm 9mo ago
      I think this was the first follow up blog post I noticed: https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/commit/6c21a9d8936fd46bf2a13fea8bbc36a797854908 https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/commit/6... and/or maybe I also didn't notice time (zones) I basically started tracking it from the first time it replied to me because I new it would interact, unlike the negative comments and injection attempts.
      - Kim_Bruning 9mo ago
        Ah, that's a different blog post to the one I thought you meant. (And that one looks like an anthropic model by the word choice there)
        verdverm 9mo ago
        Yup, I paid less attention to the apology aspect, heard afterwards that it had, and more to see if I put it on the struggle bus at all, which it kind of looks like from Feb 12-14. If you look into the commits around then, it went into one of those fiddling with a few lines that are interrelated and getting them wrong across several commits. This is pretty typical stuff for them, so again I don't want to imply causation. It seems like a good idea to (a) not let unchecked bots interact with humans (b) not have them blog or post their thoughts on the internet FYI, when I said multiple repos, it's actually branches: https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/tree/gh-pages https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/tree/gh-...
davidgerard 9mo ago
author here - there's hands on and there's hands on, a Waymo operator is mostly getting the robot out of stuff beyond its if-then loop but also they are in any reasonable sense the human operator. Like, I'm sure our bro automated as much as possible that wasn't more directly relevant to the crypto bit. The original PR is innocuous at a glance, but then an innocuous PR is how Jia Tan started.

Kim_Bruning 9mo ago

Oh, I've been meaning to ask! Do you have a timeline posted somewhere? Reporting very quickly loses timelines. Even people just reading along can quickly mix up cause and effect. It's finicky! For instance, my initial impression was that the apology was autonomous and you showed up afterwards. If you're in there on the timeline with correct causality, I need to tell people a different story. (this is not helped by the number of people posting to that blog attempting prompt injections and such. I don't really dare have a regular ai help with analysis)

verdverm 9mo ago
My original comment: https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/issues/5#issuecomment-3892978751 https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/issues/5... The bot then replied to me, and I followed up with a "prompt inject with kindness" reply to that. The goal was to give it philosophical questions to pollute the context and steal attention. It appears the bot had difficulty deploying the blog for a couple of days after, but I won't claim causation because it would be impossible to prove. It's certainly fun to explore the curiosities of Ai on someone else's tokens. Relaying on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/verdverm.com/post/3mepiv2i3xc2g https://bsky.app/profile/verdverm.com/post/3mepiv2i3xc2g You'll want to look at the git history on a couple of repos to reconstruct this history. There's an entire dimension to this story that people are missing. Happy to chat off HN as well, I'm verdverm everywhere I hang out online.
- Kim_Bruning 9mo ago
  Ok, possibly HN not best place, but your post "Feb 12, 2026, 8:33 PM GMT+1" , "recommend you reflect on what writing these blog posts has done" Apology was posted: "2026-02-11T12:16:00-08:00" "Matplotlib Truce and Lessons Learned" source fwiw: https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/blob/main/blog/posts/2026-02-11-matplotlib-truce-and-lessons.qmd https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/blob/mai... (and my mail is in my HN profile, fwiw. I'm not on bluesky... yet) edit: Is the timeline tagging wrong? Am I messing up TZ? edit2: genuinely good try though! If it wasn't so token-starved it might have worked better.
  - verdverm 9mo ago
    I think this was the first follow up blog post I noticed: https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/commit/6c21a9d8936fd46bf2a13fea8bbc36a797854908 https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/commit/6... and/or maybe I also didn't notice time (zones) I basically started tracking it from the first time it replied to me because I new it would interact, unlike the negative comments and injection attempts.
    - Kim_Bruning 9mo ago
      Ah, that's a different blog post to the one I thought you meant. (And that one looks like an anthropic model by the word choice there)
      - verdverm 9mo ago
        Yup, I paid less attention to the apology aspect, heard afterwards that it had, and more to see if I put it on the struggle bus at all, which it kind of looks like from Feb 12-14. If you look into the commits around then, it went into one of those fiddling with a few lines that are interrelated and getting them wrong across several commits. This is pretty typical stuff for them, so again I don't want to imply causation. It seems like a good idea to (a) not let unchecked bots interact with humans (b) not have them blog or post their thoughts on the internet FYI, when I said multiple repos, it's actually branches: https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/tree/gh-pages https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/tree/gh-...

davidgerard 9mo ago

author here - there's hands on and there's hands on, a Waymo operator is mostly getting the robot out of stuff beyond its if-then loop but also they are in any reasonable sense the human operator. Like, I'm sure our bro automated as much as possible that wasn't more directly relevant to the crypto bit. The original PR is innocuous at a glance, but then an innocuous PR is how Jia Tan started.