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Yes, it seems like that’s the propaganda. The free speech democratic West, instead of reporting about the objective truth, tells us half truths for their own be

Yes, it seems like that’s the propaganda. The free speech democratic West, instead of reporting about the objective truth, tells us half truths for their own benefit.

nomel 8mo ago
economist.com is a website. It's not, and doesn't represent, the whole of western civilization.
- mdavid626 8mo ago
  Are you sure? Which western media says different opinion?
  - nomel 8mo ago
    90% of the media in the US is owned by 6 companies [1]. We, the people of the western civilization, are not those 6 companies. Most of us don't trust the media [2]. With that freedom of speech, these "news" agencies can be as biased as they want, lie in all sorts of ways (omission, etc), they mostly just can't slander/defame. Almost all are strongly aligned to the republican party or democratic, and all of them are aligned to common goals like oil and Israel. It's best to watch the news knowing that there's an attempt at manipulation. Luckily, with the anti-alignment of the news agencies, the "other side" will often loudly point out flaws. The only hope for reasonable context/nuance over here is through independent journalists. Don't just the world through the lens of a few billionaires. [1] https://pwestpathfinder.com/2022/05/09/the-big-sixs-big-media-game/ https://pwestpathfinder.com/2022/05/09/the-big-sixs-big-medi... [2] https://news.gallup.com/poll/695762/trust-media-new-low.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/695762/trust-media-new-low.aspx
casenmgreen 8mo ago
No. 1. News outlets look to sell stories - and so catchy headlines. Real value is optional. 2. I expect you could find a range of contrary views over the same time. I've read good analysis saying economy will just keep going. 3. Try going to Russia and see what you find in the way of half-truths or free speech.
- mdavid626 8mo ago
  I hope you’re not serious. The point of media is not to sell stories. Even if it is, the stories should not be made-up, biased or distorted. Just because in Russia it’s worse, it doesn’t mean we should keep our media shit.
- tonymet 8mo ago
  I would call this a very cynical and pessimistic assessment of journalism. It holds them to the lowest possible quality standard.
wiseowise 8mo ago
Western news resources aren’t controlled by government, unlike Russia. So they have incentive to post what generates clicks, not necessarily what reflects reality.
- mdavid626 8mo ago
  Yes, they are controlled by money.
  - wiseowise 8mo ago
    Employing people and reporting costs money, news at 11.
- tonymet 8mo ago
  if they published anything for clicks they would have immediately published the Hunter Biden laptop story. The most salacious click-baity story in 20+ years and it was shelved. There's more to influence than "money"

Yes, it seems like that’s the propaganda. The free speech democratic West, instead of reporting about the objective truth, tells us half truths for their own benefit.

nomel 8mo ago

economist.com is a website. It's not, and doesn't represent, the whole of western civilization.

mdavid626 8mo ago
Are you sure? Which western media says different opinion?
- nomel 8mo ago
  90% of the media in the US is owned by 6 companies [1]. We, the people of the western civilization, are not those 6 companies. Most of us don't trust the media [2]. With that freedom of speech, these "news" agencies can be as biased as they want, lie in all sorts of ways (omission, etc), they mostly just can't slander/defame. Almost all are strongly aligned to the republican party or democratic, and all of them are aligned to common goals like oil and Israel. It's best to watch the news knowing that there's an attempt at manipulation. Luckily, with the anti-alignment of the news agencies, the "other side" will often loudly point out flaws. The only hope for reasonable context/nuance over here is through independent journalists. Don't just the world through the lens of a few billionaires. [1] https://pwestpathfinder.com/2022/05/09/the-big-sixs-big-media-game/ https://pwestpathfinder.com/2022/05/09/the-big-sixs-big-medi... [2] https://news.gallup.com/poll/695762/trust-media-new-low.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/695762/trust-media-new-low.aspx

casenmgreen 8mo ago

No. 1. News outlets look to sell stories - and so catchy headlines. Real value is optional. 2. I expect you could find a range of contrary views over the same time. I've read good analysis saying economy will just keep going. 3. Try going to Russia and see what you find in the way of half-truths or free speech.

mdavid626 8mo ago
I hope you’re not serious. The point of media is not to sell stories. Even if it is, the stories should not be made-up, biased or distorted. Just because in Russia it’s worse, it doesn’t mean we should keep our media shit.
tonymet 8mo ago
I would call this a very cynical and pessimistic assessment of journalism. It holds them to the lowest possible quality standard.

wiseowise 8mo ago

Western news resources aren’t controlled by government, unlike Russia. So they have incentive to post what generates clicks, not necessarily what reflects reality.

mdavid626 8mo ago
Yes, they are controlled by money.
- wiseowise 8mo ago
  Employing people and reporting costs money, news at 11.
tonymet 8mo ago
if they published anything for clicks they would have immediately published the Hunter Biden laptop story. The most salacious click-baity story in 20+ years and it was shelved. There's more to influence than "money"