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Fear is the enforcement mechanism because it can't be challenged in court. It is long past time for everyone in tech to take a long hard look at the current si

by dsl 8mo ago

Fear is the enforcement mechanism because it can't be challenged in court. It is long past time for everyone in tech to take a long hard look at the current situation and stop doing anything that financially benefits Musk, Ellison, or Thiel.

CGMthrowaway 8mo ago
Chilling effect has a long history of being well considered as unconstitutional harm in the courts https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/chilling-effect/ https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/chilling-effect/
- amanaplanacanal 8mo ago
  Who would have standing to challenge this though?
  - f_devd 8mo ago
    There is no "who", once stabilizing institutions 'fall' the only remaining option is social pressure (which can come in various forms) but that does require a critical mass as it's very much reliant on network effects.
- appplication 8mo ago
  A history of anything in the courts doesn’t seem to be given too much consideration nowadays.
tim333 8mo ago
It kind of explains quite a lot of behavior of the Russian government like low level aggression in the west, interesting ways of killing people and the like. Maybe also the Epstein files - he was in touch with Moscow a lot, and the behavior of Trump who seems pretty scared by that stuff.
- fahhem 8mo ago
  Yep, Epstein was definitely a spy for the Kremlin, and not an 'ally' that was involved in the Iran-Contra affair that Epstein was a part of.
lymbo 8mo ago
I went to a tech founder conference recently and it was quite jarring given the current state of startups to see no lecture or discussion of ethics of products people should be building. It was all focused on demands of PE and delivering profit, no matter the moral cost, not a minute to stop and get a broader systemic reality check. “It turns profit, it must be good”. Not sure how we collectively combat these dominant forces of privacy violation, attention demands, and mass exploitation.

by dsl 8mo ago

CGMthrowaway 8mo ago

Chilling effect has a long history of being well considered as unconstitutional harm in the courts https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/chilling-effect/ https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/chilling-effect/

amanaplanacanal 8mo ago
Who would have standing to challenge this though?
- f_devd 8mo ago
  There is no "who", once stabilizing institutions 'fall' the only remaining option is social pressure (which can come in various forms) but that does require a critical mass as it's very much reliant on network effects.
appplication 8mo ago
A history of anything in the courts doesn’t seem to be given too much consideration nowadays.

tim333 8mo ago

It kind of explains quite a lot of behavior of the Russian government like low level aggression in the west, interesting ways of killing people and the like. Maybe also the Epstein files - he was in touch with Moscow a lot, and the behavior of Trump who seems pretty scared by that stuff.

fahhem 8mo ago
Yep, Epstein was definitely a spy for the Kremlin, and not an 'ally' that was involved in the Iran-Contra affair that Epstein was a part of.

lymbo 8mo ago

I went to a tech founder conference recently and it was quite jarring given the current state of startups to see no lecture or discussion of ethics of products people should be building. It was all focused on demands of PE and delivering profit, no matter the moral cost, not a minute to stop and get a broader systemic reality check. “It turns profit, it must be good”. Not sure how we collectively combat these dominant forces of privacy violation, attention demands, and mass exploitation.