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Reminder that the most reliable way to prevent the rise of the far right is to implement robust safety nets and low inequality, to reduce status anxiety and gri

by Herring 8mo ago

Reminder that the most reliable way to prevent the rise of the far right is to implement robust safety nets and low inequality, to reduce status anxiety and grievance. Support for such measures (welfare, healthcare, unionization, high taxes etc) is usually low among Americans. https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/10/welfare-cuts-are-fuelling-far-right-rise-warns-un-expert https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/10/welfare-cuts...

lyu07282 8mo ago
That's why the rightward shift is unavoidable and corporate Dems like Talarico only further this shift into fascism. Even if liberals win it only means the next right-wing candidate is going to be even more extreme than the last. People think that's crazy talk, even though it's happening right in front of their faces since Obama, we're cooked.
- Herring 8mo ago
  Last time it took a huge depression to get people to start working together (FDR's socialism lite). I think part of the problem is capitalism itself. Most US companies are run like tiny little fascist dictatorships, which is a great training ground for the real thing. It doesn't socialize people to cooperate. Contrast eg Norway, where businesses operate inside a formal 3-way agreement (Trepartssamarbeidet) between the government, employers associations, and trade unions.
- nebula8804 8mo ago
  AOC has just improves her ranking big time in the last few days. If she keeps this up she 'maybe' she has a shot at the White House (maybe, its going to be a long two years). Think about it: A bernie Sanders type candidate not taking corporate PAC money is currently in the running for the White House! We saw with Mamdani they will throw everything at her. Will she falter? Hope not but feeling better than I have felt in a while.
  - Herring 8mo ago
    Obvious question: How is she going to get anything past the gridlocked Congress and hostile Supreme Court? Obama often couldn't after the midterms, and it's much worse this time.
    - nebula8804 8mo ago
      We're seeing with Mamdani, who was elected with a massive mandate, that he can get things done despite a hostile state government that clearly didn't want him to get elected. Obama had a mandate, yet he didn't use it. Looking back, we should have seen this coming when he was mentored by people like Joe Liberman, and we immediately saw the results when he was tested in one of his first goals (healthcare). He dropped the public option immediately and implemented a Heritage Foundation plan(Yeah the Project2025 heritage foundation). You can do a lot when you have a mandate and you are determined to get things done. How to determine if a candidate is like this? After many cycles of election in my experience there is only one reliable barometer. The only determining factor seems to be money in politics. If your candidate has corporate contributions, you can pretty much guarantee that nothing is going to get done. On the other side, we've seen non‑corporate‑backed candidates actually try, at the very least. Now, talking about the actual specifics of how you get past a gridlocked Congress and a hostile Supreme Court: with the advantage of being at the top of the party, you have the ability to whip your party into falling in line. We saw this with FDR. He wasn't pulling any punches. If someone got in his way, including the Supreme Court, he made their lives miserable. One of the reasons bernie people feel fond of him. A lot of these politicians are only there for the corporate donations and in hopes of a job afterwards. So a very low‑hanging fruit is to go after the corporations that are donating to the politician who is holding things up. Make the public aware that this SOB is the one holding up plans that are very popular. Do what Trump did: go into that person's district and get his voters to realize that this is the person that's holding everything up. For example, paid family‑leave polls show ~71% overall support, including Republicans, Independents, and Democrats. Yet when Biden campaigned on it and then immediately dropped it at the first sign, it showed that he didn't even try. A lot can be done if the candidate actually tries.
      - 8mo ago
lII1lIlI11ll 8mo ago
That is not a reminder, that is just, like, your opinion, man. Many countries with robust safety nets in Europe have far right parties rising in popularity significantly or already in the government/ruling coalition (Italy, Sweden, Germany, etc.).
Freedumbs 8mo ago
This is a reminder that the will of Americans doesn't effect policy. Policy is determined by money* Source: https://archive.org/details/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc https://archive.org/details/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_th...

by Herring 8mo ago

lyu07282 8mo ago

That's why the rightward shift is unavoidable and corporate Dems like Talarico only further this shift into fascism. Even if liberals win it only means the next right-wing candidate is going to be even more extreme than the last. People think that's crazy talk, even though it's happening right in front of their faces since Obama, we're cooked.

Herring 8mo ago
Last time it took a huge depression to get people to start working together (FDR's socialism lite). I think part of the problem is capitalism itself. Most US companies are run like tiny little fascist dictatorships, which is a great training ground for the real thing. It doesn't socialize people to cooperate. Contrast eg Norway, where businesses operate inside a formal 3-way agreement (Trepartssamarbeidet) between the government, employers associations, and trade unions.
nebula8804 8mo ago
AOC has just improves her ranking big time in the last few days. If she keeps this up she 'maybe' she has a shot at the White House (maybe, its going to be a long two years). Think about it: A bernie Sanders type candidate not taking corporate PAC money is currently in the running for the White House! We saw with Mamdani they will throw everything at her. Will she falter? Hope not but feeling better than I have felt in a while.
- Herring 8mo ago
  Obvious question: How is she going to get anything past the gridlocked Congress and hostile Supreme Court? Obama often couldn't after the midterms, and it's much worse this time.
  - nebula8804 8mo ago
    We're seeing with Mamdani, who was elected with a massive mandate, that he can get things done despite a hostile state government that clearly didn't want him to get elected. Obama had a mandate, yet he didn't use it. Looking back, we should have seen this coming when he was mentored by people like Joe Liberman, and we immediately saw the results when he was tested in one of his first goals (healthcare). He dropped the public option immediately and implemented a Heritage Foundation plan(Yeah the Project2025 heritage foundation). You can do a lot when you have a mandate and you are determined to get things done. How to determine if a candidate is like this? After many cycles of election in my experience there is only one reliable barometer. The only determining factor seems to be money in politics. If your candidate has corporate contributions, you can pretty much guarantee that nothing is going to get done. On the other side, we've seen non‑corporate‑backed candidates actually try, at the very least. Now, talking about the actual specifics of how you get past a gridlocked Congress and a hostile Supreme Court: with the advantage of being at the top of the party, you have the ability to whip your party into falling in line. We saw this with FDR. He wasn't pulling any punches. If someone got in his way, including the Supreme Court, he made their lives miserable. One of the reasons bernie people feel fond of him. A lot of these politicians are only there for the corporate donations and in hopes of a job afterwards. So a very low‑hanging fruit is to go after the corporations that are donating to the politician who is holding things up. Make the public aware that this SOB is the one holding up plans that are very popular. Do what Trump did: go into that person's district and get his voters to realize that this is the person that's holding everything up. For example, paid family‑leave polls show ~71% overall support, including Republicans, Independents, and Democrats. Yet when Biden campaigned on it and then immediately dropped it at the first sign, it showed that he didn't even try. A lot can be done if the candidate actually tries.
    - 8mo ago

lII1lIlI11ll 8mo ago

That is not a reminder, that is just, like, your opinion, man. Many countries with robust safety nets in Europe have far right parties rising in popularity significantly or already in the government/ruling coalition (Italy, Sweden, Germany, etc.).

Freedumbs 8mo ago

This is a reminder that the will of Americans doesn't effect policy. Policy is determined by money* Source: https://archive.org/details/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc https://archive.org/details/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_th...