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>I am of the opinion that incarceration should be "for the benefit of society"; that the person should be behind bars because because they are a threat to socie

by gruez 9mo ago

>I am of the opinion that incarceration should be "for the benefit of society"; that the person should be behind bars because because they are a threat to society. If they're done with thing because, they may do it again. And that incarceration should be working helping that person become one that would _not_ repeat that crime. Life sentences should only ever be the case for someone that will always be a threat to society. How do you know whether a murderer won't be a repeat murderer?

dmitrygr 9mo ago
statistically, recidivism is extremely common. For the benefit of the innocent, the guilty should be kept in prisons. https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/returning-prison-0 https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/returning-prison-0 https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/sex_offense_recidivism_2019.html https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/sex_offense_recidivism_2... https://usafacts.org/articles/how-common-is-it-for-released-prisoners-to-re-offend/ https://usafacts.org/articles/how-common-is-it-for-released-... https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/ https://ciceroinstitute.org/research/the-case-for-incarceration/ https://ciceroinstitute.org/research/the-case-for-incarcerat... https://bjs.ojp.gov/topics/recidivism-and-reentry https://bjs.ojp.gov/topics/recidivism-and-reentry
RHSeeger 9mo ago
> How do you know whether a murderer won't be a repeat murderer? I don't know. I just don't believe "but he hasn't paid for his crime _enough_" isn't helpful.
- gruez 9mo ago
  >I just don't believe "but he hasn't paid for his crime _enough_" isn't helpful. No, there are justifications/benefits to keeping people imprisoned beyond "paying for his crime". See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incapacitation_(penology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incapacitation_(penology)
  - RHSeeger 9mo ago
    Thank you for... agreeing with me? I didn't say there weren't reasons for imprisonment. I said that "he hasn't paid for his crime enough" is not a good reason.

by gruez 9mo ago

dmitrygr 9mo ago

statistically, recidivism is extremely common. For the benefit of the innocent, the guilty should be kept in prisons. https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/returning-prison-0 https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/returning-prison-0 https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/sex_offense_recidivism_2019.html https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/sex_offense_recidivism_2... https://usafacts.org/articles/how-common-is-it-for-released-prisoners-to-re-offend/ https://usafacts.org/articles/how-common-is-it-for-released-... https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/ https://ciceroinstitute.org/research/the-case-for-incarceration/ https://ciceroinstitute.org/research/the-case-for-incarcerat... https://bjs.ojp.gov/topics/recidivism-and-reentry https://bjs.ojp.gov/topics/recidivism-and-reentry

RHSeeger 9mo ago

> How do you know whether a murderer won't be a repeat murderer? I don't know. I just don't believe "but he hasn't paid for his crime _enough_" isn't helpful.

gruez 9mo ago
>I just don't believe "but he hasn't paid for his crime _enough_" isn't helpful. No, there are justifications/benefits to keeping people imprisoned beyond "paying for his crime". See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incapacitation_(penology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incapacitation_(penology)
- RHSeeger 9mo ago
  Thank you for... agreeing with me? I didn't say there weren't reasons for imprisonment. I said that "he hasn't paid for his crime enough" is not a good reason.