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Well, what can the average person do to get CBS to air it?

munk-a 8mo ago
CBS is responding rationally (cowardly, certainly, but also rationally) to an administration that is misusing the tools of state. Change the administration.
- georgemcbay 8mo ago
  > CBS is responding rationally (cowardly, certainly, but also rationally) to an administration that is misusing the tools of state. CBS is complicit. The Ellisons bought it and installed Bari Weiss for this very purpose of being a (very) lightly camouflaged state media.
davidw 8mo ago
I think corporate media is mostly lost. We need to build something new. Pay attention to things like The Bulwark or Liberal Currents. It's really early days for all that, so who knows where things go, but people like Bezos would rather destroy media outlets than sell them to someone who would allow them to speak out against the regime.
- renegade-otter 8mo ago
  I have been The Bulwark listener/subscriber since day one. Those people are keeping me sane. That said, their day will come. Just like in Russia, after the low-hanging fruit is cut, the state will come for The Bulwark and Steve Jobs's widow, because The Atlantic is going be get increasingly annoying.
  - davidw 8mo ago
    This is doomerism, and I get the pull of it, but I have been trying to avoid it lately, because at the end of the day, it is doing the work of the fascists for them. It is "complying in advance" to prematurely admit defeat. We are not Russia.
    - renegade-otter 8mo ago
      People will be accusing others of TDS even when Trump is well into his 3rd term. If I listed half the things that happened in the last year, you would have called me "hysterical". The US government is telling a comedian who he can and cannot interview. Russia has a pretty professional riot police that does not pop off cannons for funzies. Russian corruption has to be exposed. It's not out in the open - Putin is not excepting gold bar bribes on live TV. So, yeah, we are not Russia, in a way.
      - davidw 8mo ago
        I'm not saying things are fine. Not at all. It's a really tough line to navigate and I struggle with it myself. If you go around telling everyone we're doomed - DOOMED! Then it's not really helping, just as if you go around saying things are fine and everything will be back to normal in a few years. What was normal is gone and it'll take the rest of my life to fix things if we're lucky because the damage they've done is generational. But fix it we can and must, and they aren't actually all that popular. They're even underwater in polling on immigration.
- jauntywundrkind 8mo ago
  Liberal Currents is great. Bulwark is too, but I want to remind people that they are a center-right publication. Yes they hate the hell out of the infernal despicable corrupt sodden actions now, and are quite eloquent & good calling for some moral character & values. But they're still on the right, and crucially in writing in because sometimes people don't actually know that. Do read/listen! But please be aware. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bulwark_(website) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bulwark_(website) (In case it's not obvious Liberal Currents is quite left.)
  - davidw 8mo ago
    Sure, this is correct. But... these are strange times. I'm old enough to remember Bill Kristol the neocon from the Iraq war days and the other day he was quoting Chuck Schumer on Blue Sky saying "Abolish ICE!". Me from 2002 would have really struggled with that one.
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etchalon 8mo ago
You can't get CBS to air it, but you can let people know not to watch CBS.
- tomwheeler 8mo ago
  And eventually, future calculations from CBS about whether they have more to lose by suppressing the story or airing it will favor the latter. Or so few people will still watch CBS that their business fails. Either way, it's a win.
justin66 8mo ago
They'll respond to a loss of business or reputational damage. Reputational damage is a less useful tool today, when so many of the people in power at CBS have personal reasons for wanting to curry favor with the administration. So, loss of business: simply boycotting or changing the channel can help.
Jordan-117 8mo ago
You can call your local affiliate to complain: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-tv-stations-affiliates/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-tv-stations-affiliates/ Better yet, call their advertisers: https://stopmediabiasnow.com/cbs-advertisers/ https://stopmediabiasnow.com/cbs-advertisers/ Watch/like/comment/share the YouTube upload: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiTJ7Pz_59A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiTJ7Pz_59A More indirectly, you can support the Talarico campaign (fueling a financial Streisand effect could help discourage similar moves in the future): https://secure.actblue.com/donate/jt-tx-web https://secure.actblue.com/donate/jt-tx-web

CBS is responding rationally (cowardly, certainly, but also rationally) to an administration that is misusing the tools of state. Change the administration.

georgemcbay 8mo ago
> CBS is responding rationally (cowardly, certainly, but also rationally) to an administration that is misusing the tools of state. CBS is complicit. The Ellisons bought it and installed Bari Weiss for this very purpose of being a (very) lightly camouflaged state media.

davidw 8mo ago

I think corporate media is mostly lost. We need to build something new. Pay attention to things like The Bulwark or Liberal Currents. It's really early days for all that, so who knows where things go, but people like Bezos would rather destroy media outlets than sell them to someone who would allow them to speak out against the regime.

renegade-otter 8mo ago
I have been The Bulwark listener/subscriber since day one. Those people are keeping me sane. That said, their day will come. Just like in Russia, after the low-hanging fruit is cut, the state will come for The Bulwark and Steve Jobs's widow, because The Atlantic is going be get increasingly annoying.
- davidw 8mo ago
  This is doomerism, and I get the pull of it, but I have been trying to avoid it lately, because at the end of the day, it is doing the work of the fascists for them. It is "complying in advance" to prematurely admit defeat. We are not Russia.
  - renegade-otter 8mo ago
    People will be accusing others of TDS even when Trump is well into his 3rd term. If I listed half the things that happened in the last year, you would have called me "hysterical". The US government is telling a comedian who he can and cannot interview. Russia has a pretty professional riot police that does not pop off cannons for funzies. Russian corruption has to be exposed. It's not out in the open - Putin is not excepting gold bar bribes on live TV. So, yeah, we are not Russia, in a way.
    - davidw 8mo ago
      I'm not saying things are fine. Not at all. It's a really tough line to navigate and I struggle with it myself. If you go around telling everyone we're doomed - DOOMED! Then it's not really helping, just as if you go around saying things are fine and everything will be back to normal in a few years. What was normal is gone and it'll take the rest of my life to fix things if we're lucky because the damage they've done is generational. But fix it we can and must, and they aren't actually all that popular. They're even underwater in polling on immigration.
jauntywundrkind 8mo ago
Liberal Currents is great. Bulwark is too, but I want to remind people that they are a center-right publication. Yes they hate the hell out of the infernal despicable corrupt sodden actions now, and are quite eloquent & good calling for some moral character & values. But they're still on the right, and crucially in writing in because sometimes people don't actually know that. Do read/listen! But please be aware. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bulwark_(website) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bulwark_(website) (In case it's not obvious Liberal Currents is quite left.)
- davidw 8mo ago
  Sure, this is correct. But... these are strange times. I'm old enough to remember Bill Kristol the neocon from the Iraq war days and the other day he was quoting Chuck Schumer on Blue Sky saying "Abolish ICE!". Me from 2002 would have really struggled with that one.

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etchalon 8mo ago

You can't get CBS to air it, but you can let people know not to watch CBS.

tomwheeler 8mo ago
And eventually, future calculations from CBS about whether they have more to lose by suppressing the story or airing it will favor the latter. Or so few people will still watch CBS that their business fails. Either way, it's a win.

justin66 8mo ago

They'll respond to a loss of business or reputational damage. Reputational damage is a less useful tool today, when so many of the people in power at CBS have personal reasons for wanting to curry favor with the administration. So, loss of business: simply boycotting or changing the channel can help.

Jordan-117 8mo ago

You can call your local affiliate to complain: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-tv-stations-affiliates/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-tv-stations-affiliates/ Better yet, call their advertisers: https://stopmediabiasnow.com/cbs-advertisers/ https://stopmediabiasnow.com/cbs-advertisers/ Watch/like/comment/share the YouTube upload: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiTJ7Pz_59A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiTJ7Pz_59A More indirectly, you can support the Talarico campaign (fueling a financial Streisand effect could help discourage similar moves in the future): https://secure.actblue.com/donate/jt-tx-web https://secure.actblue.com/donate/jt-tx-web