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> This should be illegal that the government forces people into apps controlled by private, commercial entities. I call such a government corrupt. Or how about

> This should be illegal that the government forces people into apps controlled by private, commercial entities. I call such a government corrupt. Or how about schools requiring parents to use WhatsApp to receive updates and information? Luckily my ex forwards to me the important stuff, but not everyone is as lucky to have an ex like mine ))

raddan 9mo ago
Forget exes—-how about current partners! I predict with high confidence that my wife’s response to such a request would be “grow up and install WhatsApp already.”
- dotancohen 9mo ago
  To which one might reply "I can not unread those terms of service to which I do not consent". Oh, wait, I think I've just figured out why I'm divorced.
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 9mo ago
  Mine would be the exact opposite. She'd walk into the school district office and read them the riot act for being so stupid.
ryandrake 9mo ago
If the government (or school) is going to require us to have a smartphone in order to access critical government information, then we should demand that the government provide us with a compatible smartphone.
- NewsaHackO 9mo ago
  Would you use that phone?
  - simoncion 9mo ago
    If your employer required the use of a smartphone for essential components of your job and provided you with a smartphone and cellular data plan, would you not use that smartphone for those components of your job? I'd not use employer- or government-furnished equipment for tasks that the equipment wasn't provided to complete, but I'd definitely use it for those tasks.
    - ryandrake 9mo ago
      Exactly. Bank needs me to have an official FruitPhone to access my account? Fine, send me the phone, I'll turn it on when I need to bank, and at all other times it sits powered-off in a drawer. Same for the government-supplied DroidPhone I need to access my Social Security statements (or whatever). Turn on, do my business, turn off.
      - NewsaHackO 9mo ago
        Would this apply to giving you a phone plan, internet plan, computer, paper, pen, electricity, etc., because all of those are necessary to do online banking or access school chats as well?

raddan 9mo ago

Forget exes—-how about current partners! I predict with high confidence that my wife’s response to such a request would be “grow up and install WhatsApp already.”

dotancohen 9mo ago
To which one might reply "I can not unread those terms of service to which I do not consent". Oh, wait, I think I've just figured out why I'm divorced.
kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 9mo ago
Mine would be the exact opposite. She'd walk into the school district office and read them the riot act for being so stupid.

ryandrake 9mo ago

If the government (or school) is going to require us to have a smartphone in order to access critical government information, then we should demand that the government provide us with a compatible smartphone.

NewsaHackO 9mo ago
Would you use that phone?
- simoncion 9mo ago
  If your employer required the use of a smartphone for essential components of your job and provided you with a smartphone and cellular data plan, would you not use that smartphone for those components of your job? I'd not use employer- or government-furnished equipment for tasks that the equipment wasn't provided to complete, but I'd definitely use it for those tasks.
  - ryandrake 9mo ago
    Exactly. Bank needs me to have an official FruitPhone to access my account? Fine, send me the phone, I'll turn it on when I need to bank, and at all other times it sits powered-off in a drawer. Same for the government-supplied DroidPhone I need to access my Social Security statements (or whatever). Turn on, do my business, turn off.
    - NewsaHackO 9mo ago
      Would this apply to giving you a phone plan, internet plan, computer, paper, pen, electricity, etc., because all of those are necessary to do online banking or access school chats as well?