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It's simple, if you refuse to adapt you will be replaced by those who will. Writing code by hand is not going to be the default mode going forward. You either

by 0xy 8mo ago

It's simple, if you refuse to adapt you will be replaced by those who will. Writing code by hand is not going to be the default mode going forward. You either do the majority of your work controlling autonomous agents and reviewing their work or you get surpassed by all of your colleagues. Are you going to be the farmer who refuses to buy a plow? I also do not have sympathy for those who refuse to adapt. These people hold back organizations by appealing to tradition and resisting any form of change.

alephnerd 8mo ago
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jlongr 8mo ago
Alr bro we're making software not going to war.
- 52-6F-62 8mo ago
  Now you know how these guys see everything. Like when Trump tells Canada (paraphrasing) "You think we're going to let China eat you first and just have the scraps?" Everything is a zero-sum game to them. They are philosophically void.
QuadmasterXLII 8mo ago
This take seems to require that models stop getting better at some capability level a little above where they are now. Is this a future event that you are very confident of?
- 0xy 8mo ago
  AGI is mathematically impossible given our current electrical infrastructure constraints and basic laws, so yes it is. We're already seeing a dramatic slowdown in relative improvements. The gap between Sonnet 3.5 (June 2024) and Opus 4.6 (Feb 2026) is large, but it's not 1,000x. Not even 100x.
  - QuadmasterXLII 8mo ago
    Well, I hope you're right. Good luck to us all.
surgical_fire 8mo ago
If your review of AI generated code is not comparable to writing it yourself, I have some real concerns about the quality of your reviews.
echelon 8mo ago
Or: you'll be fine for a year or two. Then the models will put you out of work. Nobody will need you. We'll have a world full of largely useless humans.
- CyberDildonics 8mo ago
  Didn't you predict that by 2025 teenagers would be making full star wars quality movies in their bedrooms?
  - echelon 8mo ago
    I predicted that back in 2019 and you called me crazy. We're almost there. Forgive me if I was off by a few years.
    - CyberDildonics 8mo ago
      Any day now
gramstrong 8mo ago
You can have my job I guess, I'm not going to sit at a prompt all day being a manager for a computer. It's not an appeal to tradition, I genuinely enjoy programming. Keep up that grindset young pup!
adithyassekhar 8mo ago
It's not about adapting. I use AI a bit in my work, not fully agentic. I've seen what it does, I've seen what it's good at. The problem begins people see this as a know everything magic orb and trust it blindly for everything. It's still a pattern matching model, it's not sentient. It should remain a tool rather than one you should be asking for decisions. Also I've seen people waste massive amount of tokens to add two tabs to a line of code to fix indents. Said they don't want to click the damn line. Bro you just typed a larger prompt, sent the complete file, instead of two keystrokes. And guess what it took multiple attempts. It's like watching someone type google into google 3 times before typing what they want. Not all software are simple crud from your standard consulting business which makes more money the quicker something is finished. Some software runs critical life threatening infra everywhere. We need people who have the skills to build these, and they're discouraged from the school level not to thanks to AI bros.
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mulr00ney 8mo ago
Go back to Linkedin.
lonelyasacloud 8mo ago
And what happens when the model vendors take the obvious next step and Waymo's things up and starts delivering development systems that they are willing to guarantee don't need a local agent herder for?
francisofascii 8mo ago
Refusing to adapt is not the problem. Adapting and getting faster won't save us. They simply won't need our services, except for a lucky few.
- 0xy 8mo ago
  I posit that an LLM with 100% coding and product management accuracy is an impossibility given current trends and hard barriers. LLMs struggle with novel technical issues. They still require review and agents work best when they're hand-in-hand with an experienced human. Let me ask you something: think of the average VP or Director you've interacted with. Do you think this person is capable of directing 100,000 autonomous coding agents? Do you think they have the verbosity in prompt and the skill to know when it's not making a subtle error?
  - francisofascii 8mo ago
    The VP or director still will have developers working for them, just not nearly as many. The US employs many 4 million developers right now? That number could drop to a million in a few years, or worse.

by 0xy 8mo ago

alephnerd 8mo ago

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jlongr 8mo ago

Alr bro we're making software not going to war.

52-6F-62 8mo ago
Now you know how these guys see everything. Like when Trump tells Canada (paraphrasing) "You think we're going to let China eat you first and just have the scraps?" Everything is a zero-sum game to them. They are philosophically void.

QuadmasterXLII 8mo ago

This take seems to require that models stop getting better at some capability level a little above where they are now. Is this a future event that you are very confident of?

0xy 8mo ago
AGI is mathematically impossible given our current electrical infrastructure constraints and basic laws, so yes it is. We're already seeing a dramatic slowdown in relative improvements. The gap between Sonnet 3.5 (June 2024) and Opus 4.6 (Feb 2026) is large, but it's not 1,000x. Not even 100x.
- QuadmasterXLII 8mo ago
  Well, I hope you're right. Good luck to us all.

surgical_fire 8mo ago

If your review of AI generated code is not comparable to writing it yourself, I have some real concerns about the quality of your reviews.

echelon 8mo ago

Or: you'll be fine for a year or two. Then the models will put you out of work. Nobody will need you. We'll have a world full of largely useless humans.

CyberDildonics 8mo ago
Didn't you predict that by 2025 teenagers would be making full star wars quality movies in their bedrooms?
- echelon 8mo ago
  I predicted that back in 2019 and you called me crazy. We're almost there. Forgive me if I was off by a few years.
  - CyberDildonics 8mo ago
    Any day now

gramstrong 8mo ago

You can have my job I guess, I'm not going to sit at a prompt all day being a manager for a computer. It's not an appeal to tradition, I genuinely enjoy programming. Keep up that grindset young pup!

adithyassekhar 8mo ago

It's not about adapting. I use AI a bit in my work, not fully agentic. I've seen what it does, I've seen what it's good at. The problem begins people see this as a know everything magic orb and trust it blindly for everything. It's still a pattern matching model, it's not sentient. It should remain a tool rather than one you should be asking for decisions. Also I've seen people waste massive amount of tokens to add two tabs to a line of code to fix indents. Said they don't want to click the damn line. Bro you just typed a larger prompt, sent the complete file, instead of two keystrokes. And guess what it took multiple attempts. It's like watching someone type google into google 3 times before typing what they want. Not all software are simple crud from your standard consulting business which makes more money the quicker something is finished. Some software runs critical life threatening infra everywhere. We need people who have the skills to build these, and they're discouraged from the school level not to thanks to AI bros.

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mulr00ney 8mo ago

Go back to Linkedin.

lonelyasacloud 8mo ago

And what happens when the model vendors take the obvious next step and Waymo's things up and starts delivering development systems that they are willing to guarantee don't need a local agent herder for?

francisofascii 8mo ago

Refusing to adapt is not the problem. Adapting and getting faster won't save us. They simply won't need our services, except for a lucky few.

0xy 8mo ago
I posit that an LLM with 100% coding and product management accuracy is an impossibility given current trends and hard barriers. LLMs struggle with novel technical issues. They still require review and agents work best when they're hand-in-hand with an experienced human. Let me ask you something: think of the average VP or Director you've interacted with. Do you think this person is capable of directing 100,000 autonomous coding agents? Do you think they have the verbosity in prompt and the skill to know when it's not making a subtle error?
- francisofascii 8mo ago
  The VP or director still will have developers working for them, just not nearly as many. The US employs many 4 million developers right now? That number could drop to a million in a few years, or worse.