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It's very tempting to agree to the 'gambling' part, given that both a jackpot and progress towards the goal in your project will give you a hit of dopamine. Th

It's very tempting to agree to the 'gambling' part, given that both a jackpot and progress towards the goal in your project will give you a hit of dopamine. The difference is that in gambling 'the house always wins', but in our case we do make progress towards our goal of conquering the world with our newly minted apps. The situation where this comparison holds is when vibe coding leads nowhere and you don't accomplish anything but just burn through tokens.

xyzsparetimexyz 7mo ago
> The difference is that in gambling 'the house always wins', but in our case we do make progress towards our goal of conquering the world with our newly minted apps. What? Your vibe coded slop is just going to be competing with someone else's vibe coded slop.
- mikkupikku 7mo ago
  The motivations for wanting to make the slop could be commercial profit, or it could be simply you trying to solve a problem for yourself. In either case, the slop is the goal and, if the agent isn't giving you complete trash, you should be converging towards your goal. The gambling analogy doesn't work.
squeefers 7mo ago
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- mikkupikku 7mo ago
  Sounds like you've had too much TV. It really does rot your brain, this is obvious to anybody who doesn't watch TV, but completely imperceptible to those who do.
  - squeefers 7mo ago
    > It really does rot your brain, this is obvious to anybody who doesn't watch TV, but completely imperceptible to those who do. how do you block video on your PC? or do you literally mean audiovisual information broadcast onto actual television sets is the evil?
    - mikkupikku 7mo ago
      When you watch television, or television on your computer screen (that makes no difference) you get hypnotized by the tube into a passive state of consumption. Watch people when they watch TV. Watch their slack jawed faces when the commercials stay on and their attention stays glued to the advertisements pitching Alzheimer drugs. Critical though suspended, minds off in space. In short, read a book.
      - squeefers 7mo ago
        what you said is true about books, and people made the exact same arguments when the printing press hit the scene - "you get hypnotized by the tube into a passive state of consumption" - "Watch their slack jawed faces....and their attention stays glued" both statements apply equally to books. read here if you dont believe me. https://engines.egr.uh.edu/talks/what-people-said-about-books-1498 https://engines.egr.uh.edu/talks/what-people-said-about-book... youve got a case of the feelies my friend
- wiseowise 7mo ago
  Books are net positive for you, slop smoothens your brain IF you completely outsource your thinking to it. It’s not a rocket science.
  - squeefers 7mo ago
    unless the book contains instructions on how to do things... then youre just outsourcing thinking to the book right? people have to remember less with the printed word full stop. so whats the difference?

xyzsparetimexyz 7mo ago

> The difference is that in gambling 'the house always wins', but in our case we do make progress towards our goal of conquering the world with our newly minted apps. What? Your vibe coded slop is just going to be competing with someone else's vibe coded slop.

mikkupikku 7mo ago
The motivations for wanting to make the slop could be commercial profit, or it could be simply you trying to solve a problem for yourself. In either case, the slop is the goal and, if the agent isn't giving you complete trash, you should be converging towards your goal. The gambling analogy doesn't work.

squeefers 7mo ago

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mikkupikku 7mo ago
Sounds like you've had too much TV. It really does rot your brain, this is obvious to anybody who doesn't watch TV, but completely imperceptible to those who do.
- squeefers 7mo ago
  > It really does rot your brain, this is obvious to anybody who doesn't watch TV, but completely imperceptible to those who do. how do you block video on your PC? or do you literally mean audiovisual information broadcast onto actual television sets is the evil?
  - mikkupikku 7mo ago
    When you watch television, or television on your computer screen (that makes no difference) you get hypnotized by the tube into a passive state of consumption. Watch people when they watch TV. Watch their slack jawed faces when the commercials stay on and their attention stays glued to the advertisements pitching Alzheimer drugs. Critical though suspended, minds off in space. In short, read a book.
    - squeefers 7mo ago
      what you said is true about books, and people made the exact same arguments when the printing press hit the scene - "you get hypnotized by the tube into a passive state of consumption" - "Watch their slack jawed faces....and their attention stays glued" both statements apply equally to books. read here if you dont believe me. https://engines.egr.uh.edu/talks/what-people-said-about-books-1498 https://engines.egr.uh.edu/talks/what-people-said-about-book... youve got a case of the feelies my friend
wiseowise 7mo ago
Books are net positive for you, slop smoothens your brain IF you completely outsource your thinking to it. It’s not a rocket science.
- squeefers 7mo ago
  unless the book contains instructions on how to do things... then youre just outsourcing thinking to the book right? people have to remember less with the printed word full stop. so whats the difference?