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How is nation-states funding private corporations "cut-throat competition"?

enraged_camel 8mo ago
What does this even mean? Are you disputing the fact that AI labs are competing with each other because they are funded by nation-states?
- co_king_5 8mo ago
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- malfist 8mo ago
  Why do you have to compete if you can just say "but China!" And get billions more dollars from the government
tokioyoyo 8mo ago
Ok, to be very honest I wrote that in the middle of having a couple of drinks. I guess, what I mean is, countries are funding AI labs because it can turn into a “winner-takes-it-all” competition. Unless the country starts blocking the leading providers. Private companies will turn towards the best, fastest, cheapest (or some average of them). Country borders don’t really matter. All labs are fighting to get the best thing out in the public for that reason, because winning comes with money, status, prestige, and actually changing the world. This kind of incentives are rare.
- irishcoffee 8mo ago
  > countries are funding AI labs because it can turn into a “winner-takes-it-all” competition. Winner takes what exactly? They can rip off react apps quicker than everyone else? How terrifying.
  - tokioyoyo 8mo ago
    Like I understand this commentary, but it’s so detached from reality. My dad in his 70s is writing Excel macros, even though he never touched that in his life. There are a ton of cases like this, but people can’t see reality out of their domains.
    - irishcoffee 8mo ago
      That’s so dope excel finally let old people learn this! They removed the agelock?!
      - tokioyoyo 8mo ago
        Come on man, you know exactly what I mean. You can keep coming up with these arguments, but the world has moved on already. I genuinely don’t know a single person in 3 different countries from age 12+ who does not use LLMs at least once a week. We have to adapt, or choose to not play the “game”.
        irishcoffee 8mo ago
        Your counter to "excel was never hard to learn" is "people use LLMs all day long" ?? I uh, think the LLM use has compromised your critical thinking skills.

What does this even mean? Are you disputing the fact that AI labs are competing with each other because they are funded by nation-states?

co_king_5 8mo ago
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malfist 8mo ago
Why do you have to compete if you can just say "but China!" And get billions more dollars from the government

tokioyoyo 8mo ago

Ok, to be very honest I wrote that in the middle of having a couple of drinks. I guess, what I mean is, countries are funding AI labs because it can turn into a “winner-takes-it-all” competition. Unless the country starts blocking the leading providers. Private companies will turn towards the best, fastest, cheapest (or some average of them). Country borders don’t really matter. All labs are fighting to get the best thing out in the public for that reason, because winning comes with money, status, prestige, and actually changing the world. This kind of incentives are rare.

irishcoffee 8mo ago
> countries are funding AI labs because it can turn into a “winner-takes-it-all” competition. Winner takes what exactly? They can rip off react apps quicker than everyone else? How terrifying.
- tokioyoyo 8mo ago
  Like I understand this commentary, but it’s so detached from reality. My dad in his 70s is writing Excel macros, even though he never touched that in his life. There are a ton of cases like this, but people can’t see reality out of their domains.
  - irishcoffee 8mo ago
    That’s so dope excel finally let old people learn this! They removed the agelock?!
    - tokioyoyo 8mo ago
      Come on man, you know exactly what I mean. You can keep coming up with these arguments, but the world has moved on already. I genuinely don’t know a single person in 3 different countries from age 12+ who does not use LLMs at least once a week. We have to adapt, or choose to not play the “game”.
      - irishcoffee 8mo ago
        Your counter to "excel was never hard to learn" is "people use LLMs all day long" ?? I uh, think the LLM use has compromised your critical thinking skills.